Anger and Forgiveness

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Ymra, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    My dad used to tell me that "A weak man can never forgive" my dad said a lot of shit I thought he was saying just to get me to shut up...but this is one of the things he used to say that I always paid attention to.

    I've been angry for ohhhhh 5 - 6 months. REALLY angry and I THINK I'm getting to the point where I can come down.

    ..a little

    but my dad was right, "a weak man not never forgive" because it takes strength to do so.
     
  2. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Your dad was absolutely correct. :cool:

    Sometimes, though, it takes time to get to the point of being able to forgive. Just remember, not forgiving someone effects you much more than it does them...I think that's a big part of what causes that weakness.
     
  3. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    Wise words from your dad.

    What are you angry about?? :(
     
  4. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    So much to list, so much to list.....

    but this little break has caused me to realize that in order for me to get what I want I just may have to let go of some anger.
     
  5. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Forgiveness is Overrated

    There are instances where you can disregard someone's actions entirely and simply let it go. But in the case of murder and other actions, they are unforgivable no matter how hard you tried. I simply cannot say, "I forgive you" and expect myself to move on if someone kills someone close to me (notably family) because that still lingers for the rest of my life. Even if justice would have been done, the best recourse (for me) would be the philosophy "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."

    "You killed my family, payback's a bitch."

    Now there are other cases, like betraying one's trust and infidelity...that's unforgivable, but at the same there is a sense of release to just move on and let it all go ultimately. The emotional tryst will still be there, but it can seep away altogether.
     
  6. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    Me personally there are few things that are "unforgivable" Yes, hurting my family, or my children...there is no coming back from that. But something something as infidelity, I could never say that is "unforgivable" but that's just me...

    ...perhaps its because I'm not Christian.

    I can forgive, and will forgive, but its not easy, not easy at all.
     
  7. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    It has nothing to do with being a "Christian". Even those who label themselves as such have problems finding things forgivable too.
     
  8. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    You will find that the people who speak in such absolute terms, the the ones who believe that no matter what on does God will forgive them, are Christians. And the reason they use for not able to forgive "Well I'm not God"

    There are no absolutes in this life, and to expect it on any level is, to a certain extent, is to expect failure.
     
  9. z

    z Well-Known Member

    As a Christian I agree with this statement. Even tho the teaching of Christ is mostly on the basis of forgiveness, a lot of us Christians find it very difficult to practice that teachings, after all we are humans. Having said that I do agree with Ymra's dad, it does take a stronger individual to say I forgive you. Having bent over and fucked in the ass by life (not literally but figuratively) I was a very angry ape and to certain degree still am, but I realized just forgiving (mind you not forgetting) and moving on was the best for my physical, psychological and spiritual being. All anger does is consume the heck out of you, the more angry you are the worse things get, coz you lose focus and degree of stability to make the right decisions.

    I always say I lost the battle but I am not going to lose the war and try to focus on the bigger picture of life than small individual event or tragedy.
     
  10. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    And yet they also acknowledge that there's no reset button and still have to live with the pain of someone who died. While believing that there's an afterlife or heaven for those who follow their convictions strongly, there's still that feeling of dread and uncertainty linger about. The principle of forgiveness is easy, but the practice is all the more difficult.

    Would it be wrong if I said, "Amen"? :cool:
     
  11. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Tho I was told numerous times that I would make a great cinematic director or HS football coach, nobody said I would make a perfect preacher, well there is a 1st time for everything,,,, now that I am annointed as a preacher, time to find the perfect wife for the preacher, where is the personals in the forum again? lol
     
  12. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Hahaha, shall I introduce you to some redheads?
     
  13. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Nah, Thanx, no offense to red heads but the only one I was into was Angie Everhart and that Aussie actress who portrayed herself as horny over the top lady in the wedding crushers.
     
  14. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    :smt023
     
  15. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    Hahaha, then I shall sulk at your loss! :smt089:smt095:smt089:smt095
     
  16. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    powerful
     
  17. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    great topic ....... in the bible shows that punishment must be issued...people like to say forgive forgive..what they are really saying dont punish .... which is bs. every action there are benefits and cost, rewards and punishments.

    the reason you should forgive is because it takes a heap of energy and focus to continue to hate. hating costs too much with no enormous amount of benefits in compared to the costs
     
  18. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    I disagree, I dont' think people are saying don't punish. On the contrary you find that most people are able to forgive after punishment has be rendered. And this is where I am. Quick trip back to MD for the weekend and I feel I am read to exercise the strength of forgiveness.

    ...ok let me be more accurate. I am ready to start to consider forgiveness.
     
  19. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    And I find that the very essence of Christianity allows for a "way out" a subjugation of person responsibility. Yes you have freedom of choices, but its really not your fault...blame satan. And it has already been established that you will fail....and fall short.
     
  20. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I can see that to a point....it is just do they hold on to that anger
     

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