something is wrong here

Cue the politically-correct all-inclusion crew and the dumb negroes who simply do what they want on a WW/BM board.

 

1. It's pretty much one's own perception towards others. You'll have to ask them the right questions to get a good idea or impression. I know there are black guys out there who want to reinforce their preferences and yet speak on being open about their openness to other groups. But given the time here, they are sincere with themselves and posting topics about non-white women really has nothing to do with their own insecurities. You seemingly have a problem with it and that's on you.

2. You claim that men posting non-white women onto these threads caused white women to disappear? That's ridiculous. If anything, it has more to do a collection of topics which lead to spats and vile verbal exchanges and often times rude individuals. I doubt any of the women here would be so insecure as to think that creating threads dedicated to a particular non-white group would cause them to go away from here.

3. Men generally have a hard time expressing emotion to women in general. That's just ingrained in the human psyche of remain, reinforcing that they have to adopt a stoic attitude.

 

I feel like you get what Im trying to say.... Ive met and known some northern Indians and they looked like your stereotypical Greek (They had that Meditterranean look).

 

Preach...

 

SMH, you are really losing your train...

I never made such a claim, in fact the closest I even alluded to that was in the post you just quoted This attraction to non white women though is just a small part of this overall issue of why some of the women are gone. Nowhere did I make the claim about men posting [pics] of non-white women being the reason for women leaving.

Good assertion, but you've been here 4 months, this conversation extends beyond that time, many of the women who have left this site you've never even engaged with. Karmacoma has been here for 5 years, Veema for 8, that's many times longer than you have. Do you know who BMJ is? A really unique and irreverent poster who probably attracted women to this site and never ran any off, but without naming names of people still here, much of his discourse (tongue and cheek or not) was about downplaying whitewomen. Malikom started the Black women thread, do you even know who that is? He certainly didn't start the Black women thread with any sincerity, but you wouldn't know that, would you? If you are an older poster, posting under a new account, than your point is more valid, but otherwise as much as I hate when it's done, I'll have to throw out the newbie card on you.

And what questions have you asked them that gave you this impression of them below?

What's seemingly. I've been clear with my feelings about the men on here in this instance. One of these examples:

I'm fine with these threads because it shows the mindset and views of certain posters just as much as if it was a political thread.

another

I dislike it for the simple fact I'm not really into non White women. The Threads should be kept around like I said though, so we can see what some BM are saying and who they are attracted to.

another

If my personal view on beauty was my gripe (and I'm insulted if you think it is) it would see the BBW thread gone from here. I find many of the Black or Asian women attractive in those threads. My preference (thin /pretty white women) has absolutely nothing to do with how I see some Black men on a site that has white women (also as half of the title) negotiate their attraction with those said women. My preference (thin /pretty white women) has absolutely nothing to do with how I see some Black men on a site that has white women (also as half of the title) negotiate their attraction with those said women.


We have a different perception on why some of the BM behave the way they do in this regard, but what exactly does a problem being on me mean? that my problem is emblematic of a personal issue of what? something like feeling the need to be comforted? I'm not sure where your perception comes from, but I'm not trying to claim there's a personal issue with you that made you derive your thoughts on this situation. With certain posters who have exhibited the behavior I'm discussing, well I would engage them with regard to a specific post.

 

Then what did you imply exactly?

While I'm basically a "newbie" on these forums, I've also been around the forums of all kinds for quite a long time, so I know how they operate. Even though this specific one is about love for black men and white women, the problems aren't all that exclusive. Then again, I did participate in discussions like this on Facebook too. Regarding Malikom, I know he's been banned for his insane behavior, and I have the ability to read up on his history too, so for me to be a newbie is irrelevant in that respect because past posting are still well documented in people's profiles.

Basically, it's hard to tell. They would have to be outright honest and their tone and reactions would all have to show some sense of hostility. So far, I have yet seen any of the sort.

So, why piss and moan if posters decide to create threads regarding their interests outside of white women? It's only one particular place where it's being done. If it was everywhere and all over this site in general, THEN I'd say your point would be valid regarding all this. But, as it stands, your thoughts are pretty much unfounded.

 

What a bunch of B.I.T.C.H.E.S. (the men) [for some reason I have been saying that word a lot]

 

Here is what I'm saying and in addition to what I will post below. I would never attribute one reason for the women leaving or not posting as much, I know several different reasons for a few of the women. These are my two main points

the sentiment of trying to downplay white women, whether it's in relation to their privileged status in society, their nationality, or some stereotype of white women who like Black men, is part of the negative undercurrent and many times articulated by the Black men on here.

and

Some like other women equally, while some just want a little changeup, some BM just want to assert their right/ability to have an IR, and then there are those who prefer white women , yet the reality of AFFIRMING THAT and saying it loud and proud is probably a blow to there notions of Blackness or some other social pressure, many of these guys probably believe the negative stereotypes about Black men who like White women and don't want to be seen in that light. These dudes go into detail about other women for many reasons, some of it seems like over compensating.

The second part is the one we disagree with, I brought up the "fawning" over non white women and the discourse of the BM as how this forum is gearing away from topics ww would like. I lurked here for months and only joined for the celeb thread and the pics in the lockerrom, I would be fine with a forum of BM who preferred ww as as well as others, doesn't mean I haven't seen a dynamic or change in dynamic once I began posting.

Sure, but that's not going to stop me from expressing my opinion, especially since these thoughts being founded would be a rather hard case

I'm not sure if my previous 3 or 4 responses constitute pissing and moaning, and a lot of this happens outside the locker room. I felt this was the perfect time to bring up my feelings about some of the dynamics on this site.

 

Ohhh, I'm understanding it all now. It's making sense here. You're bound to find people like that. However, I still have yet seen an over-saturation of non-white women appreciation topics, which is the main point I'm asserting here. I can understand if those topics were to downplay white women or basically they would reaffirm their interests in other discussions each time as though it requires some sort of disclaimer, THEN it would be problematic. But based on what I've noticed, those topics only have near erotic to hardcore images of women in general and I have yet witnessed any of the posters here who use them to downplay their interests for white women at all.

I am thinking of posting some non-white appreciation thread on here one day when I have the interests or out of boredom. I'll keep it in the Men's Locker Room, and continue to post images. Why? Because I find women in general attractive. Would that mean I'm downplaying white women? No. I acknowledge the site's main purpose and won't deviate from that. I view beauty from a personal and collective scope and it's appropriate for the men here to observe.

You have every right to express them, but the claims are still baseless.

Then let's make a joint effort to find these posts together. What do you say?

 

Sort of. Those two main points were separate issues.

That's true, but the confluence of a thread about WW leaving and a thread about loving Black women being at the top of the locker room was not lost on some people.

The downplaying of WW is something that happens outside of the lockerrom on threads about WW or the "American IR Scene"

The downplaying of WW is something that happens outside of the lockerrom on threads about WW or the "American IR Scene"

Couldn't I say the same thing about yours? I don't however, since if one could only express themselves on things they had absolute proof of, very little would be expressed.

Find what posts? Those that downgrade types of White women? Those that Downplay White Women? or those of Black men who overcompensate for liking WW. If it's the last one as you said: It's pretty much one's own perception towards others. You'll have to ask them the right questions to get a good idea or impression.

It would just be both of our perceptions, we would need to ask the person (I don't want to call out specific people either), and most likely they would say no and I would most likely not believe them.

 

And how many threads were meant to be out of malicious spite?

I have yet seen them. Why not just give out the names?

Perhaps you could. But the burden of proof is on you since you're making those claims in the first place.

I would like to find those posts, and since you're making those claims of these individuals, why not help out prove your claim?

 

Some thought Andrae's first threads were malicious. How many are meant that way? the discourse certainly turns that way especially when someone like Fredrick posts.

Them as in threads? The downplaying of WW happens in post. BMJ is one who would do this often in his discourse on the value of white pussy

We have already gone over this, my claim of Black men over compensating is not even provable, unless a person claims it to be the case and if they don't claim it, that might not change my opinion on how I think they fell. You are asking to prove an opinion I have of someones feelings based on particular post that doesn't directly state what I think they feel. How many members am I going to have to call out before you get that? Can we prove Michael Steele hates himself? How many posts do you want to parse and go over giving our opinions as to what they mean/ Coincidentally bringing up peoples names. If I feel the need to call someone out, it will be in a specific post, not posthumously, doesn't stop me from saying "some" or wanting to make a general statement as to some of the behavior of the members.

 

Well, you said others regarding Andrae. But what about you? Would you agree with those sentiments? Frederick on the other hand, I can understand.

And yet, the responses were mainly "I'm not reading all that shit". So, that sounds more like they've ignored or disregarded that altogether. It's irritating to have people posts something silly, but still you can always respond with something "wasteful".

Well okay, then.

 

BBW:

1) Those threads that XOXO is speaking of is everywhere, its astounding you have missed them and for you to ask for them to be chased down is plain silly. Its easy, just take the many many people on here that say they exist on their word and/or do a search.
You arguing w XOXO about this is just pathetic.. that is my opinion. I admire his patience with you on this subject.

Given your short time here and your apparent lack of knowledge of what has transpired here before you joined. Perhaps you should proceed with less confidence that you are right.
I hate to use the newbie card, but your really pushing it. LOADS of these posts arent even up for opinion, they are clearly down putting of ww.


2) Look up opinion.. an opinion does not come w a "proof of burden". Thats why its called an opinion and not a fact.

 

FG for Moderator!!!!!

 

reread my last posts for edits....

So you can understand Fredrick? which means you understand this:
the sentiment of trying to downplay white women, whether it's in relation to their privileged status in society, their nationality, or some stereotype of white women who like Black men, is part of the negative undercurrent and many times articulated by the Black men on here.


and some of the other claims like Jordan said,

Some people don't like what Andrae says either? I like Andrae and don't have a problem with his posts, and I can tolerate Fredrick. Trey and his why I don't look at BBW, is an offensive thread to the WW that I will say I didn't like.

I don't even like calling out BMJ, who is very smart and I enjoyed his posts. If you read his post that started that you will see he was talking about the value of white women, that the value, his liking them what based on value alone. Much of his stuff was also shtick, and you can clearly see that there was a reaction to the initial post as he claims, or do you want me to find that post?

 

He may have been here much longer than I have, as have many of you, and while there are a few bad apples around here, lately, such threads don't really pop up as much. If any at all. That's from my personal observation.

And my personal opinion about that (which doesn't require time on here) is that you shouldn't bother with people like that. People will post nonsense all over. But xoxo and I actually came to an agreement with that one a while back. What's being discussed has more to do with black men here creating threads regarding non-white women and his assumption that they are doing it out of fear. This is where the disagreement comes into consideration.

People use that word way too loosely. And people often believe that they can back that up with facts.

 

Got it. Makes sense.

I'm aware of Trey and I even have called him out on his antics.

I've re-read the post and I've found the reactions overall rather interesting. But it's all not that big of a deal. It sounds like something Rajen Persaud would say.

 

LOL!!

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Thank you Karma!!!!!!