Are Black Americans programmed to hate themselves?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Bhayes, Dec 15, 2010.

  1. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    glad you asked.

    Do you remember a old sitcom tv show called "saved by the bell"
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    it was a american sitcom about High School Kids.

    check it out. it was very very popular at the time in the 90's, but i was always forced to watch it because my older brother liked it so much. i never liked it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0LqM_yyHA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeYb4V0sV1k&feature=related

    now that i'm older i see why i hated it so much. The premise of the show is highschool kids and the competitive antics they all go thru with each other Don't get me wrong i think the show has its moments but i always hated..

    thus you see all the extremes of people. but simply put you have the pretty people vs the ugly people. the cool people vs uncool people. etc.,

    and then lets take it down to the black ameican level and mix in the popularity of hip hop culture. And what you have is the forumla for a very very compteitive social environment.

    where its "okay to be cruel as long as your are COOL" and the same goes for family situations.

    and my family environment was very dysfunctional. the movie soulfood i think portrays this very well.

    my family is very much like this.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsxjqvBhBWk

    in the environment i was raised in order to have friends and dates you MUST have 1 of 4 things going for you.

    A) You must have superb looks (face, body, hair, skin color-complextion)
    B) You have to have a strong sense of humor (class clown, comedian)
    C) You have to have talent (you must be a rapper-actor-performer)
    D) You have to be a talented athlete with opportunities
    E) You parents have to be rich - you have expensive material things (cars, clothes etc.,)
    F) You must be a A-Student who's going to IVY league college (you have to be the A-List Student in the elite class).

    the looks issue i see now, is alot tougher on women than it is men IMO.

    the friendship game, the family game and ultimately the dating game was so very competitive that i believed that i was never smart enough, handsome enough, or talented enough to have girlfriends and/or just friends. And i wasn't according to the social atmosphere I was in. So everything from color complextion to your actual class (rich-middle-class or poor) was always a issue.

    but it was just the small african american shell i lived in. i now see that i had nothing to be ashmed of.

    i now see that if i had the opportunity to be a foreing exchange student or something like that in France or Germany or Australia or somewhere else other than a Black-american environment that would have valued my mandhood i would have been okay.

    but hindsight is 20/20. like MrFantastic pointed out. I must focus on other things. it not easy. baby steps.

    looking outside the USA is the first step. but it aint easy!
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2010
  2. veema

    veema Member

    Saved by the Bell sucked.

    Okay, the paragraph quoted above gave me a better understanding of what you were trying to say. Now I have another question: Why did you choose to go to Howard?
     
  3. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    i feel that the type of person i am, that someone like me could never really enjoy a show like saved by the bell.

    again the show had its moments. there were some funny eps, but i just couldn't relate to the being "young beautiful, cool and funny" thing.

    well i think a show that portrays black people competiting with each other better is a show called "a different world"
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXaz7cLkWtw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tse3fB1C0Q&feature=related

    so if you took the competitive family antics from the soul-food movie, the competitive class clown antics of saved by the bell tv series and the diff. kinds of black people competing with each other dynamic on A different World and mix them together with some rap music and gospel, this is how i grew up.

    don't get me wrong, i'm greatful for alot of things but i also had lots of bad luck too. It was hard.

    but i now firmly believe that it didn't have to be as hard as it was. i wish i had been in a situation where i traveled more. it would have been easier on me.

    well simply put, Howard has a business school there. there are opportunities there that i can take advantage of.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2010
  4. veema

    veema Member

    Howard is a good school. After reading everything you wrote, I just wondered why you don't plan on going somewhere that offers more diversity.
     
  5. Bhayes

    Bhayes New Member

    good question. this has come up.

    my goal is to study finance and try to get volunteer opportunties at local embassies here in D.C. and work on my foreign languge in the mean time and Howard has good hookups like this.

    it just takes alittle negotiating.

    When i arrived at howard in 2001 all of the issues i have described got amplified to the 10th power and i had even more problems.

    i withdrew in 2004 because i really didn't have a purpose and i was almost flunking. Now i'm ready to go back and take advantage of opportunities. its just business. i'm more focused now.
     
  6. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Im glad someone thought grace was fine besides me. because I thought she was sexy but people stated I was wierd. if you dont mind I am going to start a thread that have kids rebuking their skin and other races rebuking darker skin
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2010
  7. thefieryphoenix

    thefieryphoenix Active Member

    It probably is not an accident that many of the fast food superstores are located in white communities, not in the inner city, while the inner city is replete with places that sell greasy, salty food.
     
  8. thefieryphoenix

    thefieryphoenix Active Member

    You must spread some rep around before giving it to flaminghetero again.
     
  9. lightbrotha4u

    lightbrotha4u Member

    grace jones is nowhere near ugly. but her style/persona scares me though lol....and i never dug really short, man-type hairstyles on women.
     
  10. thefieryphoenix

    thefieryphoenix Active Member

    You are overrating the man's physical appearance. Women look for a lot more things like charisma, good character, self-confidence and how well/poorly he treats them.
     
  11. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    rolls eyes...you forgot that we also want ginormous sized cocks :p
     
  12. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    :smt023
     
  13. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    LMAO!
     
  14. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member



    Her Majesty Empress Mega Melons will be coming to co-sign this at anytime.:cool:
     
  15. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    you know i had to live up to my annoying gnat status that ymra gave me

    now HMEMM could refer to quite a few of the lovely ladies on here ra ra...but i'm guessing you're referring to the other team member of tnt, and she beat you to it
     
  16. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    Good job, Tarshi!

    He's actually referring to Kuno this time...lol!
     
  17. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member






    You need to keep up with the ins and outs around here Ms. Tarshicat. Guess I need to get back to nipping at your freckled butt again in order to keep you in the loop. :smt106
     

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