ABS- question .

Discussion in 'Health, Fitness and Fashion' started by goodlove, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I know if you dont eat correctly - a good diet , your chances of getting a nice abs section is gone out the window.

    Im thinking of becoming a full veggie man...would that get me quicker to a six pack or at least a nice ab section.

    also would cardio do the job along with sit ups and crunches.

    lastly can you give some exercises besides situps and crunches along with a shedule/routine and an estimated time you may start to see results
     
  2. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    to be honest, we'd have to see a current photo of your mid-section. Or, just estimate the amount of fat you have in the area. you're diet is going to be the most important thing to work on, if you're carrying extra weight like that. If you don't, and you're eating lean foods, i don't see why you shouldn't be seeing and FEELING results within a short period of time. By feeling, I mean a tightening of the mid-section. When it starts getting tight, that's when you know that area is getting primed.

    Then it's all about shredding that fat.

    as for exercises, you got a lot to choose from. You can do side-bends with weights, for the obliques. you can do knee raises if you have suspension equipment. You got leg lifts, side twists with weights...tons of stuff.

    Just remember with abs, you can train that more often than your other muscle groups. If you go hard with abs one day, you can go right back to doing them the day after.
     
  3. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Wouldn't being vegetarian work against him, unless he took in lots of quality protein from other sources like whey?

    Other than that, I'd agree you just have to drop your body fat to a level where your Abs are visible. If you do that and work them most days, then you shouldn't have trouble seeing results.
     
  4. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    im not big on vegetable protein. the stuff i get mainly comes from meats or whey, so i dont know.

    it's worth a google.
     
  5. Espy

    Espy New Member

    I agree. Most of the vegetarians I know stick to a lot of soy, but I wouldn't recommend that to goodlove. I know quite a few people who have had health issues, particularly with their thyroid, from consuming mainly soy. I limit my soy protein and get most of mine from meat and nu-whey.
     
  6. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    yup, You are right. I wasn't going to say anything but this isn't the wya to build muscle. You need proteins and zinc to build testosterone. Soy hurts that.
     
  7. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Yes you can, I will put you on later...I have to sleep for now.
     
  8. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    yeah I wonder wouldnt eating potatoes of different forms (mash potatoes, potatoe soup and ect) would give me what I need along with beans of all types.
     
  9. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Doubtful. Potatoes have very little protein in them. Beans are higher protein, but I think you'd have to eat quite a bit of them, and I suspect you'd get tired of the same thing all the time. If you plan to follow a vegetarian diet, I'd recommend you get some type of whey protein shake to drink before and/or after workouts.
     
  10. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    yeah. I can dig it.
     
  11. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Alright this is a long ass read but you may find it beneficial during your quest.

    What is the Raw Food Diet?

    The raw food diet is a diet based on unprocessed and uncooked plant foods, such as fresh fruit and vegetables, sprouts, seeds, nuts, grains, beans, nuts, dried fruit, and seaweed.

    Heating food above 116 degrees F is believed to destroy enzymes in food that can assist in the digestion and absorption of food. Cooking is also thought to diminish the nutritional value and "life force" of food.

    Typically, at least 75% of the diet must be living or raw.


    So basically,COOKING ones food,destroys the valuable nutritional enzymes that your body could and SHOULD be getting.

    What are the Benefits of the Raw Food Diet?
    Proponents of the raw food diet believe it has numerous health benefits, including:

    * Increased energy
    * Improved skin appearance
    * Better digestion
    * Weight loss
    * Reduced risk of heart disease

    The raw food diet contains fewer trans fats and saturated fat than the typical Western diet. It is also low in sodium and high in potassium, magnesium, folate, fiber and health-promoting plant chemicals called phytochemicals.

    These properties are associated with a reduced risk of diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, and cancer. For example, a study published in the Journal of Nutrition found that consumption of a raw food diet lowered plasma total cholesterol and triglyceride concentrations.


    What is needed to live a raw food lifestyle?
    All you need are 5 simple things that are cheap:
    1.A food dehydrator
    2.A blender
    3.A food processor
    4.A juicer [champion brand is the best]
    5.IMAGINATION/CREATIVITY

    These 5 things my people, will be ALL you ever need to be the healthiest you can be.
     
  12. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Raw food athletes
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    BTW the woman in this video is 52 years old, I REPEAT 52 YEARS OLD!
     
  13. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Milk: Why you dont need it to get buff,and why it is FALSE that its good for you:

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    Good information but he left out the horrible things they feed cows like cement and the amount of blood and pus they allow in the milk that the FDA approves YOU to drink.SMH:

    *NOTE*
    how he says you can get WAY MORE PROTEIN from green leafy vegetables.

    I am an avid bodybuilder and this is my source of proetin when I go into the gym- HEMP PROTEIN POWDER,Usually When im in the gym lifting,I have by my side at all times agallon of water with atleast 5-6 scoops of Hemp Seed protein,mixed with A bit of Agave Nectar(natural sweetener). This simple mixture works MIRACLES. I sip it in between my sessions and I get the best pump ive ever experienced and mind you I used to take supplements like Whey and etc. None compare to this.TRUST.\
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    Hemp Protein Facts:
    Hemp seeds have the most complete edible and usable protein in the vegetable kingdom. Although soybeans are said to contain more, much of it is unusable by the human body. Proteins serve such functions as acting as enzymes, antibodies, and the structural components of tissues, hormones, and blood protein. The main function of dietary protein is to supply the building blocks called amino acids so that they can be used to reconstruct other proteins needed for the growth and maintenance of body tissue.

    Proteins are often classified as structural (fibrous) or biologically active (globular). Structural proteins include collagen, keratin, and fibrinogen, which are the main constitutents of bones, skin, hair, ligaments, feathers, and hooves! Biologically active proteins are mainly globulins and include such things as hormones, hemoglobin, antibodies (immunoglobulins), and enzymes. Although the body can make globular proteins out of any protein that enters the body, it is much more efficient for the body to make globulins out of globular starting material.

    What makes globular proteins so special is that they are precursors to some of the most vital chemicals in the body:

    * hormones (which regulate all the body processes);
    * hemoglobin (which transports oxygen, carbon dioxide, and nitric oxide);
    * enzymes (which catalyze and control biochemical reactions);
    * antibodies (immunoglobulins which fend off invading bacteria, viruses, and other pathogens, as well as toxins or antigens as they enter the body).

    The total protein content of hemp seed is about 65% of the globular protein edestin, which closely resembles the globulin found in human blood plasma. It is easily digested, absorbed, and utilized by humans and vital to maintaining a healthy immune system. Edestin has the unique ability to stimulate the manufacture of antibodies against invasive agents and is nearly phosphorus-free, which is important for kidney ailments. The other important protein in hemp seed is albumin, which is also a highly digestible protein because of its globular shape. Albumin is a major free radical scavenger and is the industry standard for protein quality evaluation.

    Hemp protein contains all 21 known amino acids, including the 8 essential ones adult bodies cannot produce. Proteins are considered complete when they contain all the essential amino acids in sufficient quantities and ratios to meet the body's needs. The following are the 21 most common amino acids, with the 8 essential ones in bold:

    * alanine
    * arginine
    * aspargine
    * aspartic acid
    * cysteine
    * glutamic acid
    * glutamine
    * glycine
    * histidine
    * isoleucine
    * leucine
    * lysine
    * methionine
    * phenylalanine
    * proline
    * serine
    * taurine
    * threonine
    * tryptophan
    * tyrosine
    * valine
    * taurine (considered essential for premature babies)
    * histidine (considered essential for children, but not for adults)

    Proteins are potential allergens, which also include soy, dairy, or peanut proteins. However, no hemp seed allergies have ever been reported. Several oilseeds also contain anti-nutritional factors; for example, the trypsin inhibitors in soybeans; but none of these factors are known to occur in hemp seeds. Hemp seeds also contain fewer oligosaccharides, present in peas and beans and which cause intestinal gas. A significant number of people are becoming allergic to soy products, possibly because most are from genetically engineered crops or grown with the use of chemicals. On the other hand, because hemp seed does not require chemicals or genetic alteration, it rarely, if ever, causes sensitivity.

    Hemp seed protein can supply any diet with a vegetarian source of essential fatty acids, antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, fibre, chlorophyll, and a complete, balanced gluten-free source of the essential amino acids.

    Hemp Protein Powders
    When purchasing a hemp protein powder, look for a brand that supplies at least 50% protein by weight and supplying 15 grams of protein per 30 gram serving. While hemp protein may contain more total fat than many other protein powders, it should be stressed that almost all of this fat comes from the essential polyunsaturated fatty acids Omega-6 and Omega-3. Hemp is recognized by the World Health Organization (WHO) as having what is considered to be an optimal 3:1 balance of omega 6 to omega 3 essential fatty acids.

    Unlike hemp protein powder, many soy isolate powders that are not labeled organic are often processed with hexane, a petroleum solvent that has adverse impacts on the environment as well as on human health. The resulting hexane-processed soy is utilized in many soy protein powders, cereals, and bars. Hemp protein powder is produced usuing only cold-pressed techniques and does not involve the use of hexane in the production process. It is the same technique that ensures valuable vitamins and minerals are not destroyed during processing.

    Perhaps the most important difference between soy and hemp seed protein powders is that the non-organic soybeans used in many soy products are often derived from genetically modified soybeans. Hemp is never genetically modified. Hemp foods also have low environmental impacts because growing hemp seeds does not require the addition of herbicides or pesticides.

    A pound of hemp seed would provide all the protein, essential fatty acids, and dietary fiber necessary for human survival for two weeks. For this reason it is used in many parts of the world for treating malnourishment. How far does a pound of meat go?
    Source:http://www.innvista.com/health/foods/hemp/seedprot.htm
     
  14. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Some of the most nutritious vitamins come from the sea, Like seaweed,blue algae etc. and these contain Omega3's AND MORE of what we need.These are available in capsule,and powder form. I usually use the powder form called Spirulina in my smoothies and shakes:

    Weighing in at an impressive 60% protein content, Spirulina is a fresh water alga–actually, a form of bacteria–which knocks both red meat, at 27%, and soy, at 34%, on the ropes in terms of muscle-building potential. And it brings to the ring, along with all that protein, a powerful combination of minerals, including iron, calcium, and magnesium, with a backup punch of all the vitamins to which the first five letters of the alphabet have been assigned. :cool:
    In addition, Spirulina is one of the few plant sources of vitamin B12, usually found only in animal tissues. A teaspoon of Spirulina supplies 21/2 times the Recommended Daily Allowance of vitamin B12 and contains over twice the amount of this vitamin found in an equivalent serving of liver.

    Spirulina also provides high concentrations of many other nutrients - amino acids, chelated minerals, pigmentations, rhamnose sugars (complex natural plant sugars), trace elements, enzymes - that are in an easily assimilable form.

    Even though it is single-celled, Spirulina is relatively large, attaining sizes of 0.5 millimeters in length. This is about 100 times the size of most other algae, which makes some individual Spirulina cells visible to the naked eye. Furthermore, the prolific reproductive capacity of the cells and their proclivity to adhere in colonies makes Spirulina a large and easily gathered plant mass.

    The algae are differentiated according to predominating colorations, and are divided into blue-green, green, red and brown. Spirulina is one of the blue-green algae due to the presence of both chlorophyll (green) and phycocyanin (blue) pigments in its cellular structure.

    Even though Spirulina is distantly related to the kelp algae, it is not a sea plant. However, the fresh-water ponds and lakes it favors are notably more alkaline - in the range of 8 to 11 pH than ordinary lakes and cannot sustain any other forms of microorganisms. In addition, Spirulina thrives in very warm waters of 32 to 45 degrees C (approximately 85 to 112 degrees F), and has even survived in temperatures of 60 degrees C (140 degrees F)

    Certain desert-adapted species will survive when their pond habitats evaporate in the intense sun, drying to a dormant state on rocks as hot as 70 degrees Centigrade (160 degrees F). In this dormant condition, the naturally blue-green algae turns a frosted white and develops a sweet flavor as its 71 percent protein structure is transformed into polysaccharide sugars by the heat.

    Some scientists speculate that the "manna" of the wandering Israelites, which appeared miraculously on rocks following a devastating dry spell and was described as tasting "like wafers made with hone " may have been a form of dried, dormant Spirulina.

    This ability of Spirulina to grow in hot and alkaline environments ensures its hygienic status, as no other organisms can survive to pollute the waters in which this algae thrives. Unlike the stereotypical association of microorganisms with "germs" and "scum", Spirulina is in fact one of the cleanest, most naturally sterile foods found in nature.

    The name "spirulina" is derived from the Latin word for "helix" or "spiral"; denoting the physical configuration of the organism when it forms swirling, microscopic strands.(Just like black people hair=spiral=helix=galaxy=divinity:cool:)
     
  15. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

  16. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    do you lose the needed nutritions when you eat a bake potatoe
     
  17. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    You dont "loose" needed nutrition by eating a baked potato. But given the section this is in - its not a food you want to eat if you are striving for a fit body and abs.
    Its fairly nutritional root to eat but it is high on the high glycemic index, its loaded with carbs. If you put anything on it, you have a calorie bomb.

    A baked sweet potatoe is a better alternative- if you dont put anything on it.

    Having that said, its can be good to eat carbs before a hard work-out, as the carbs is the fuel for your muscles. I would just eat it very sparingly and not put anything on it other than something very healthy.

    Low glycemic index foods keep your blood glucose level much more stable among many other advantages of low glycemic index foods.
    Below is a link to a great site that gives you glycemic index and other information. You do a search to the right above the grey bar on any food item and you get more information that you know what to do with. Its great!

    http://nutritiondata.self.com
     
  18. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    yeah. I guess eating veggie versus meat is much better. it would be the fact of getting the protien you will need. what about the bones because of the post earlier...drink soy milk
     
  19. Espy

    Espy New Member

    You want to be careful with how much soy you ingest goodlove. It has negative health effects for some people.
     
  20. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    good looking out. When I can afford it I may need to go to a nutritionist for in depth advice.

    my main goal is to put on muscle mass and a flat tummy. if i get a six pack then cool
     

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