I never knew White Women felt this way..

This morning I quieted my soul, I sat & watched the leaves fall from the trees outside of my window, they were like dancing children...free moving, free spirited, a variation of colors. As they took their first venture into the world, they did not stray far from the big beautiful brown & white bases from which they were born from, but when they were ready, the wind helped them & guided them on their journey. Some journeyed far, some short, some back and forth, some side to side, high & low, high & far, some close to the ground...but they all went some were & I respected all of them for the potential they have...

 

thank you kuno lol its easier when your typing paragraphs with 1 finger to ust type what u think the checker will catch but i forgot to correct them lol i knew i had not done something :-x

anyways here we go

Not very broad. Plenty of categories, i left room for you to add a few too. But I feel the categories were dead on and even if you don't like them thats how I divided the WW who date BM not WW period. I can only go by their actions.
And I know White women, I know White boys, I know the White man, I live in Tennessee where it is more then 90 percent white I've known White people my whole life, I've been treated as a nigger, a human, a fellow white, a non-nigger, and I've gotten the "your one of the few of y'all i trust" speech more times then i can count. Don't get defensive because I have divided white women into several factions and with varying calibers of jungle fever.

Obviously when you have a group of women who have options withen their own race and then a second race and then a third and so on there always leads to friction and kind of an imbalance. I don't blame the white woman for this. Whatever you are you should never be ashamed of yourself.

Even when their is not prejudice interracial dating is kinda hard because sticking to your own is somewhat the natural order or at least a default i guess. So when the White women come through our communities and pick up our men with ease that creates animosity. the work that the Black woman has to put in to getting her Black man and then trying to keep him on the strait path is automatically undermined.
Black women react because of hatred/racism, fear, jealousy, competitiveness territorialism, and the entire gambit.

Black men have this same issue because lots of White women like them, Latinos, a few Asians, a few Arabs. WW and BM may be the two groups with the highest rate of cross over appeal. It is a unique common ground.

Like I said before I believe and agree with you there are more BW hating on WW just to be haters then vice versa. But I also believe a sizable minority of WW just don't like BW for the reasons I stated in my first post.

I would like a discussion about the issue rather then you all to rule out its existence or blast the OP for being a mixed person which is irrelevant.

Just an over appreciation of Black culture, a lot of trying to hard. I feel like the WW does fear the BW sometimes. Sometimes they seem intimidated or overwhelmed. Sometimes I'll ask a White girl about some Black girl and what she thinks about her and I feel shes afraid or reluctant to criticize the Black girl. The cattiness she extends to the White girls is muted. Why I am no instigator I am a bit attracted to the cattiness and feistiness.

It was a bad call to make that joke..

A plethora? Those are 3 girls.. I aint just been with 3 girls period.. I argue with these 2 white girls I absolutely loved and it never reached that point. The problem in my community is there are no deep interracial relations. Even if you do associate with other races at some point you always return to segregation. And then you have entire herds of individuals whos only exposure to Black people is through the rap they blast and the hip hop clothing they wear. A thin veil of camaraderie. Their need to be cool or hip is what brought them closer to the Black community and they hoped to maintain an image or persona. Thats probably why those White girls went all Jim Crow Jessica on me and I was kinda caught of guard by 2 of them.

The first girl that threatened to lynch me and my friend I can not recall why we fought. I think one day I called her on her shadiness and confronted her abut things others had said and it went from there. She said she was pregnant I said I never banged her she lost all her composure from there and reminded me just where she came from in Tennessee..

The one that was pregnant by a Mexican now, she got online one day i think we were arguing over her being a smart ass or something and we just started sparring and she dropped the n bomb. I have that yahoo fight archived.

The third and worst incident was the younger gal. we werent an item but shed talk to me for hours everyday. and shed tell me to drive up there to meet her atthe mall and I'd say I wanna to come to her hoise and she'd say her grandma would have a fit so i said whatever. I call her one day and her friend answers and says shes in the basement hooking up and shes been down there for 2 hours. I question her, she fronts, then admits it, then tries to quote laws to defend it then i show her loop holes then she makes up a new defense then i say how is he getting in your then, she gets angry and it escalates from there for a week or two. she txts "go pick yo cotton" i have my other friend (ironically a wigger-type from a far more racially polarized county) call her up. They argue. She calls me, I refused to answer and she leaves some voice saying "just like a fucking nigger to not pick up the phone" and some other shit. She sounded just like one of those girls from Laguna Beach/the Hills. It was insane. I have that recorded on my computer still.

My point thee was even if she is mixed, unless we know what she looks like, youall can't go ham on her because shes not a WW. If she looks like a WW perhaps she has the right to imply she is a WW? I don't know..

And again the outrage I refer to is you all making a big deal of her turning out to be mixed. Is it invalid now? The girl who said she was pregnant, she went over to my friend, my friend is the one who has the white girlfriend from the ghetto who tries to act Black and loves Black men only but hates Black women.

She will admit it too. This is hilarious because my friend's mom is a Black women from the old school that donttake nothing and is outspoken. Shes also not a fan of White women..

I am not offended or out to get WW who hate BW I am just trying to understand about them.

Ofcourse. But not always. I understand why anyone defends themselves from any attack. Thats natural knowledge. What I dont understand is how some WW can hate a BW when her BM was raised by one or may have sisters or a grandma. Its a truncated racism and that is something i wish to understand. the WW hates BW but her BM wouldn't be in the world to be with her without a BW. I want to see how a quasi-racist uses their logic to reconcile that dilemma or awkward dynamic.

Its like when a parent will tell their kid that the bully bullies them because he hates himself. Thats not always true. You pointing to insecurity is the simple answer and theres more to it then that. We need answers not you dismissing something with lame Dr. Phil-isms.. We need a discussion with real explanations. if you dont know WW or you arenta WW with these views why are youeven in this thread? I didn't generalize, you just said I did so you'd have an excuse to fire "back" on me..

i dont have an agenda, i am blunt, outspoken, opinionated, and not concerned with popularity. I ask what i want to know or what others are too afraid to admit they want to know.

I have no animosity towards WW. I was born Black and I shall remain Black and my early upbringing and mistreatment by Whites affirmed that. I have a Jack Johnson mentality really.

But even though i am unapologetic about my Blacks and don't mind displaying it and infuriating and egging on the rednecks and skin heads I want my girl to be white. I don't want a wigger type of girl. I don't care what you think or anyone else, as a woman in an IR you should applaud that. White women are my world, all i have ever wanted is white women, all hat will ever mke me happy is a white woman, all i am attracted to (mostly) is white women. if there were no white girls my world wouldn't spin at all. I just want a white girl that is simply white..

 

blah blah blah.. dont worry about what i did or didnt spell right.it makes plenty of sense to someone who isnt overly defensive.
If you take offense you must be one of the WW I was talking about to begin with. What exactly is it that I need to figure out about inter racial dating if Its all I do bozo?
Your under the microscope, get the fuck over it..

 

There are so many cars on the roads now a days, what happened to walking or riding your bike?

What happened to putting on a tie or dress for dinner after five?

What happened to activities, people used to ask you "what did you do?". Now it's "what did you watch on tv?"

What happened to my neighbor? These days your neighbor may have been abducted, murdered by their spouse or robber, committed suicide, or buried someone in their basement. You can't leave your door unlocked and sleep on the porch anymore (if you even have one, suburban homes lack porches a lot now a days).

 

What's up with the novels? Shit...

You lose all credibility for naming our coupling, "Jungle Fever". What is this, 1991? That is YOUR perception and YOUR categories. They seem skewed to me and I can bring in White racist women vs. WW who date BM because they have a natural affinity. I can run the whole gamut too. Who are you? A WW dating BM category expert? I was referring to WW that date BM. You live in TN. Not exactly the haven for interracial dating, so your perception seems to be skewed again. This is not to down anyone from the South, but I'm referring to how race relations are and the history behind it vs. a bigger city with much more acceptance or any other city in America with not such a touchy history.

I don't get your point?

Some WW might have options and some might choose her solely cause of her being White, but a lot of other races who are very attractive can have any man they want as well. I think you're feeding into that WW are on a pedestal or the European standards of beauty bullshit. I think this is more about the suitors, not the subject at hand.

Pick up "our" men? I can already tell who I'm dealing with just by this alone. Are BM or any race of people someones property? Last I checked, you can date whoever you want, but if you're talking about racial counterparts, fine. Where are WW coming through the Black community to pick up men? Since when is picking up a BM easy? I like to know. It's not easy being in an IR cause you do get a lot of slack and have to be strong to combat the hate. What did WW do to detour BM off the straight and narrow path? WTF? No man will do anything unless he allows you to. WW are not the cause for the small percentile of dysfunctional mono-racial (Black couplings) relationships. I think you're feeding into the medias bullshit. Most BM are with BW. I can understand the plight of BW and feeling neglected by her men, but WW aren't the cause of that.

Black men have more options than ever, yes, but what's your point? We are also the most hated coupling in all of the IR matches.

I never said that more BW hate on WW. If you're going to quote me, quote me correctly.

What are you talking about? Have you read the thread in its entirety and word for word? No one blasted her for being mixed or whatever. Everyone simply defended themselves as posters here. We were accused of something that was an outright falsehood.

Who's trying too hard? What are you referring to exactly?

There are some WW who are scared of BW. I can agree with that.

I think this can be said on both sides. Women are pegged against each other as a whole in society. We're conditioned to compete and then when you add race and men to it, so many insecurities start flying.

Yeah, you probably do evoke those things to get a rise out of the women cause it turns you on.

You started the joke with your reference to sucking more than once.

My point was, YOU must be doing something. Either provoking something from these women or attracting racist WW. More than one is enough. Like I said earlier, you live somewhere in TN. I wouldn't expect you to have the same results as opposed to a more open-minded city.

I agree on people needing exposure to other races and cultures.

It wouldn't surprise me about those chicks, but what do you expect from close-minded people?

 

That's one dumb chick who happens to be White, she doesn't represent WW as a whole who date BM.

Well, I don't agree with her or her racist rants, but again, she doesn't represent all WW who date BM.

Another racist chick who's a racist individual. Not all WW as a collective act like this, but why am I even bothering to mention this when you have your set categories of how WW are.

I hate that W word. It's really offensive. To me, it's another way of using the N word, cause you're downgrading Black people via a White person who emulates Black culture.

Let that bullshit go!

Lawd! Please get this through your thick skull. We didn't come at her for being mixed (or Black). Some of us have mixed children or plan to. This isn't about her looks or her racial background etc., we responded to her for accusing us of saying something that was never said. PERIOD.

OMG! Again, did you read the thread? It has nothing to do with what she is. Your spelling is awful, now I think your comprehension is as well.

The girlfriend of your boy has insecurity issues and she doesn't represent every WW who dates BM. Just cause you date BM and you're White, doesn't mean you hate BW. I can't hate BW ever - when they've been some of the greatest friends I've ever had. Been there for me when no one else was, looked out for me and my best interest and felt like they're family

Those women exist. No ones oblivious to them.

Who's out to get BW? You're recycling bullshit and lies. I don't even know why I'm entertaining you and your bullshit. I guess cause I like to hear someones experience, perception or ignorance.

Who's hating? WTF? I don't think this board is for you or for those questions, cause no ones hating on BW. I already told you, I can't hate on BW. It's not in me. I might argue against someone hating on IR dating, but not BW for being BW. Stop the insinuating and baiting. It won't fly here.

You're on some other shit....

I never said insecurity was as simple as that. I didn't go into great detail to break down the insecurities or the reasons. I was basically stating that they exist and are the fueling force which a lot of hate comes from.

I can come in here and post cause I have that right. I'm not on some pseudo intellectual tip. I'm combating ignorance, misconceptions and naiveté of WW who date BM.

Well, your upbringing and experience is why you feel the way you do. It sucks that you're narrow-minded and have tunnel vision. I'm not disputing that there are some racist, stuck-up, think they're Gods gift to BM WW out there, but you speak with a grudge.

Why do you want your girl to be White?

I don't applaud you wanting a WW, at least with your mindset I don't.

Your last paragraph sounds like a joke. SMH... It doesn't match the other stuff you just ranted on about.

 

Although there were some undeniably cringe-worthy moments when I was reading your posts, One to Remember, your point of view was interesting nonetheless. What I learned from your writings is that you and I probably live in very, very different worlds. But that doesn’t mean that your world doesn’t exist and your experiences aren’t valid. We all have our own little version of "reality" afterall, lol. I do wish you could find better people to hang around with though and broaden your experiences more.

 

I went on a whole quoting expedition, yet you summed it up perfectly in a few paragraphs.



So on point!

 

Nah girl, I appreciate you! I wish I could rep you. I would if I could....
's up to you Chica!

 

:smt058 Luvin' you today Mr. FRESH.

BTW, my suburban home has a porch.

 

It's really sad when trolls have nothing else going in their lives except coming back here after they've been banned at least once to try to cause more problems. :roll:

 

You're welcome!

I wish people would read more before they go on some accusation rant. I'm always up for an intelligent discussion about race relations as many of us are, especially about interracial dating, but I'm not down with the WW do this, BW do that, BM are this etc. shit.

Tact, decorum and respect go a long way....

 

I got you next time too

Yes, it's really sad...

 

You are so right....