Biracials that choose indentify as Black/African American

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by malikom, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. Ronja

    Ronja New Member

    You're saying your son didn't like being called different things that he isn't. So does many biracial children.You might not have a problem with it, but they do. And since they're the victims it's their opinion that matters.

    Also, I know you have white and black children, however you might feel differently if you had a biological child who were mixed. If I had an adopted black child, I too would raise him/her to be "black".
     
  2. alli

    alli New Member

    I assume that my sons will identify as black men because my husband is black and is their main male role model.

    Of course, I don't know for sure. They have much more exposure to white children than black, so as they grow and make deeper friendships they will likely be with white boys because of the area in which we live. Possibly they will identify as white, but it would make more sense that they would consider themselves to be as their father is.

    My husband asked me several years ago if I saw our boys as black or white. I see them as bi-racial. He said he sees them as black. Interesting.
     
  3. jellybird

    jellybird New Member

    I really dont see the big deal about kids choosing to be called black instead of bi-racial. IMO...if a bi-racial kid wanted to be considered white, then I would think that he was trying to avoid the stigma that society tries to attach to being black and the racism that is so prevalent throughout the world. If that same kid wanted to be considered black,then I would see a certain amount of strength in that considering the reasons I mentioned above.

    And no...this isnt my opinion because im black. This is my opinion because since the 1900's bi-racial people who could pass for white did so because life was that much harder being black. And all things considered, life is still that much harder for blacks than it is for whites.

    So for the white women here who say that they would be "horrified" and "offended" if their child wanted to be considered black, realize that its not a rebukement of their white/irish/european heritage, but personal embracing of their black one.
     
  4. Intriguedone

    Intriguedone Well-Known Member

    +1
    If you can be objective, they you should understand JB's point.

    It is NOT an indictment or denial of "white" heritage to identify oneself as black. The reality is you have to make a greater effort to embrace your "black" heritage due to the stigmas associated with it. That's a sad reality.
     
  5. robina

    robina New Member

    my daughter is mixed race and i do constantly correct my family when they tell people shes white ( my childs not 4 yet ) with my family i do get a fair amount of racism outta them and i dont want my child growing up thinking being mixed is a bad thing

    if when shes grown she wants to identify as one or the other ( and she probebly will never have the mental capacity to understand this anyway ) then i wont mind in the least as it would be her perception of who she is and forming your own ideas of your personal identity is a part of growing up
     
  6. Intriguedone

    Intriguedone Well-Known Member

    :cool:Being of mixed heritage is a beautiful thing...and I do strongly agree with you not wanting others to form your child's opinions.
     
  7. ReginaStar

    ReginaStar New Member


    It would first depend on the reasoning. Like for instance if they were saying "as a black man" talking about the black mans struggle, I'd be fine with that b/c that is a struggle of theirs. If the identified as black over biracial on the other hand I would feel I failed as mother. I hope my children will identify with all that they are and never be ashamed of who they are. They are both black and white and can never be one without the other. I don't go for that I have a white parent bull either. You can be black and have white parents through adoption. To be both black and white is to embrace all of whom you are not just part of it. If your saying I'm black with a white parent your just acknowledging the race of the person whom raised you not the race of yourself.
     
  8. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    But I don't get it, but saying they are "bi-racial" they aren't acknowledging any sides of themselves, but bi-racial is specific to nothing. Are they part black, part Asian. Are they part white part Latino?

    Its just a ways of something "I'm something other than"

    My children have a black father and a Japanese mother "bi-racial" they are not. Whites (yes whites) have a need to classify races, have had this need (in America at least) since the foundation of this country. Now many say foolish things like "I'm 25% German, 25% Italian, 25% Irish and 25% American Indian ....you know every has lil Indian in them"

    ...in the end they are still white.

    Whites willingly gave up their cultural heritage, and forced others to leave it. Now as many racist are celebrating ties wot the ethic roots white have a NEED to a part of something as well. A need to be acknowledge.

    When people ask me "what are you kids mixed with" or "are you kids bi-racial" as if my children were a breed of dog my first thought is to choke them until they urinate on themselves.
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2010
  9. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    more of malikom's troll shit...
     
  10. Anten7

    Anten7 New Member

    I am proudly African-American. My parents are mixed races - but I am African-American. We are a culture of people who have originated in the United States - and did not exist anywhere before. I am not white. I am African-African or Black or Negro.
     
  11. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    I have more Irish in me than anything...and I'd look pretty foolish walking around claiming to be "mixed race" or IRISH.

    With my dark skin, thick lips and nose.

    "bi-racial/mixed race" is nothing more than the racial pet poodle of the new millennium. Everyone wants to be mixed with something. "I want to bring credit to both races" but couldn't tell the history, language or culture of either

    "bi-racial" seems to be enough.

    I've never met so many "mixed race" people in my entire life.
     
  12. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    Out of ALL the threads, this one was upped too....
     
  13. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    it's obviously been too peaceful round here the last 24 hours so we need to rehash the hating
     
  14. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    and you like white women...definitely a confirmation that you're a brother. :smt023
     
  15. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    Biracials that choose to indentify as BBW
     
  16. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    :smt081 i think you may be onto something there...awaits the thread
     
  17. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    whoopi goldberg is irish. No one thinks she is pretty foolish. Ali is Irish too. I never understood why it is foolish to claim what you are.
     
  18. Ymra

    Ymra New Member

    Claiming is one thing, identifying ins another.

    Both Ali and Whoopi have said they are "black/African Americans" neither "claimed" to be bi-racial or mixed.
     
  19. Tamstrong

    Tamstrong Administrator Staff Member

    My son is black. I see him as a young black man & when society looks at him they see a young black man as well. He also identifies himself as black.

    There are a few assholes I've encountered (white & black) that have an issue with this. My own mother told me before he was born that I should raise him to try to pass for white. She couldn't understand why that offended me. Of course, there is no way in hell my son could pass for white. I have also had a black man I didn't know tell me not to call my son black because he was a 'mutt' & not 'pure enough' to be considered black. Maybe I shouldn't have said it, but since my son was darker complected than him, I told him that when he got a tan then he could tell me how black or not black my son was. He didn't seem to like that. I have heard countless comments like these over the years, but I knew that most people would see him as black.

    He's dealt with being called the n-word, been physically attacked & bullied, had people lock their car doors when he walked by, he's dealt with racist teachers & boss, etc. etc. etc.... He's had every sterotype there is thrown at him. Even family members tease him about his hair & dick size.

    Sometimes out in public with my son, some people think I'm some dirty old woman messing around with a young black man because to them he doesn't look like my child. That one irritates me but I have to laugh.

    What's been hard is trying to raise him to be a strong black man because I've had to do it on my own. I have done my best to build him up because I know that society will do its best to tear him down. I worry because he doesn't take me seriously when I tell him he needs to be prepared for what life throws at him. I pray daily for him & I hope I've raised him well enough to survive swimming with the sharks. I love my son & I am so proud of him & I hope he will embrace & love his blackness in spite of those that don't.

    The parents of mixed children who attempt a neutral approach to the race issue aren't doing their children any favors. They need to know & understand the reality of being who they are. When it comes down to it, it's not about what's best for you but for your children.
     
  20. whikle

    whikle Well-Known Member

    Jaisee, when we have our many babies lets raise them in Australia, ok? Then we won't even have to worry about this silly argument.
     

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