VH1's list of the 100 versus rolling stones. who got it right

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by goodlove, Sep 7, 2010.

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who has the list that is the best at getting it close to correct ?

  1. VH1

    2 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. rolling stone

    1 vote(s)
    33.3%
  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Vh1's 100 greatest artist

    100 Alicia Keys
    99 Hall & Oates
    98 Depeche Mode
    97 Pretenders
    96 Journey
    95 OutKast
    94 Mariah Carey
    93 Pearl Jam
    92 LL Cool J
    91 Green Day
    90 Elvis Costello
    89 Beastie Boys
    88 Bee Gees
    87 George Michael
    86 N.W.A.
    85 The Band
    84 Curtis Mayfield
    83 Earth, Wind and Fire
    82 Steely Dan
    81 ABBA
    80 Mary J. Blige
    79 Eminem
    78 Judas Priest
    77 Lynyrd Skynyrd
    76 Run-D.M.C.
    75 Rush
    74 The Cure
    73 Van Morrison
    72 Janis Joplin
    71 R.E.M.
    70 Def Leppard
    69 Tupac Shakur
    68 Otis Redding
    67 Coldplay
    66 Justin Timberlake
    65 The Doors
    64 Talking Heads
    63 Notorious B.I.G.
    62 Genesis
    61 Cream
    60 Whitney Houston
    59 Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
    58 Cheap Trick
    57 Iggy & The Stooges
    56 KISS
    55 Peter Gabriel
    54 Public Enemy
    53 Little Richard
    52 Beyoncé
    51 Billy Joel
    50 Sade
    49 Parliament-Funkadelic
    48 Rage Against The Machine
    47 Jay-Z
    46 Ramones
    45 Al Green
    44 Joni Mitchell
    43 Ray Charles
    42 Metallica
    41 Van Halen
    40 The Police
    39 The Kinks
    38 Sly & The Family Stone
    37 Fleetwood Mac
    36 Paul McCartney
    35 Johnny Cash
    34 Tina Turner
    33 Guns N’ Roses
    32 Black Sabbath
    31 John Lennon
    30 Aerosmith
    29 Radiohead
    28 Elton John
    27 Aretha Franklin
    26 Neil Young
    24 The Velvet Underground
    25 Chuck Berry
    23 AC/DC
    22 The Clash
    21 Bruce Springsteen
    20 Marvin Gaye
    19 U2
    18 Pink Floyd
    17 Queen
    16 Madonna
    15 The Beach Boys
    14 Nirvana
    13 The Who
    12 David Bowie
    11 Bob Marley
    10 Stevie Wonder
    09 James Brown
    08 Elvis Presley
    07 Prince
    06 Jimi Hendrix
    05 Rolling Stones
    04 Led Zeppelin
    03 Michael Jackson
    02 Bob Dylan
    01 The Beatles
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    Rolling stones' greatest artists list


    1. The Beatles - Makes sense. Some of the most influential albums of all time are the works of these lads. What else can you say?
    2. Bob Dylan - I could argue with this one. He's a legend, but number 2?
    3. Elvis Presley - Very successful, the king of rock n roll of course, but he was very controlled by his manager.
    4. Rolling Stones - Often called 'Anti-Beatles', definitely top 5
    5. Chuck Berry - Probably invented Rock n Roll. Deserves to be here.
    6. Jimi Hendrix - First guitar god, I believe. Revolutionary player
    7. James Brown - Godfather of soul, is it? Great showman
    8. Little Richard - American Rock & Roll/R & B singer and pianist
    9. Aretha Franklin - I think she was the first woman to be inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame. I'll look that up later.
    10. Ray Charles - American R&B singer and pianist
    11. Bob Marley - Jamaican reggae singer
    12. The Beach Boys - Some of the catchiest songs I ever heard.
    13. Buddy Holly - Tragic death. One of the first to use a solid-body electric guitar.
    14. Led Zeppelin - Possibly the 'fathers of heavy metal', but some might argue that Black Sabbath is.
    15. Stevie Wonder - American soul singer. Plays many different instruments, and has won 22 grammy awards
    16. Sam Cooke - A founder of soul music.
    17. Muddy Waters - 'Father of Chicago Blues'
    18. Marvin Gaye - 'The Prince of Motown'.
    19. The Velvet Underground - American rock band, formed in 1965. Regarded as highly influencial in the rise to punk-rock, and alt-rock.
    20. Bo Diddley - Legendary R&B singer. Known as the 'Originator'
    21. Otis Redding - You might not know him, but you've probably heard 'Sittin' on the dock of a bay'.
    22. U2 - The Joshua Tree was one of my favourite albums
    23. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA was overplayed. Good to see him make music again.
    24. Jerry Lee Lewis - 'Great Balls of Fire' was his greatest hit, and one of my favs
    25. Fats Domino - Rock & Roll pianist
    26. The Ramones - Regarded as the first punk-rock group
    27. Nirvana - I swear, RS magazine has a hard-on for these guys. They put Kurt Cobain at #12 on their 'Greatest Guitarists of All Time' list, and now this.
    28. Prince - 'Purple Rain' is one of my favourite albums. He's also an icon in style
    29. The Who - Should be higher. Rock artists still try to sound like them
    30. The Clash - English punk-rock band from the 70's
    31. Johnny Cash - The 'Man in Black'. Should be higher, since he's the equivalent of Elvis, except country. The only country singer I like
    32. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles - American R&B group
    33. The Everly Brothers - Country/Rock Duo
    34. Neil Young - Candadian singer-songwriter. Influential in grunge
    35. Michael Jackson - Would be higher if he wasn't wacko. Thriller was the best-selling album of all time
    36. Madonna - I don't like her music, but she could still be higher. The 'Queen of Pop'
    37. Roy Orbison - American singer-songwriter. Sang 'Oh, Pretty Woman'
    38. John Lennon - Liked him in the Beatles, not as a solo artist. Imagine was a great song, however
    39. David Bowie - Icon in music, as well as style
    40. Simon and Garfunkel - Should be in the top twenty, in my opinion. If you haven't heard of them, you need to get some education
    41. The Doors - I'd put them top 30, but this is alright
    42. Van Morrison - 'Van the Man'. Sang 'Brown Eyed Girl'.
    43. Sly and the Family Stone - American funk band
    44. Public Enemy - Not a chance. I'd say about 80, maybe
    45. The Byrds - American rock group
    46. Janis Joplin - American singer-songwriter
    47. Patti Smith - The 'Godmother of Punk'
    48. Run-DMC - Biggest act in hip-hop throughout the 80's
    49. Elton John - Should be higher. Not a huge fan, but I can appreciate his talent
    50. The Band - Canadian rock band. They backed Ronnie Hawkins, and Bob Dylan
    51. Howlin' Wolf - Blues singer
    52. Allman Brothers Band - Southern-rock band
    53. Eric Clapton - English blues-rock guitarist
    54. Dr. Dre - Has numerous Grammys for rapping and producing
    55. Grateful Dead - American rock band
    56. Parliament/Funkadelic - African-American soul band
    57. Aerosmith - American hard rock band
    58. Sex Pistols - One of the first punk bands. Definitely one of the most prolific
    59. Louis Jordan - Jazz musician
    60. Joni Mitchell - Canadian singer-songwriter
    61. Tina Turner - American singer and entertainer
    62. Etta James - American R&B singer. Sang 'At Last'
    63. Phil Spector - He's a producer. Why is he on here?
    64. The Kinks - English rock group
    65. Al Green - American gospel singer
    66. Cream - '60's British rock band. Considered to be the first 'supergroup'
    67. The Temptations - American R&B vocal group
    68. Jackie Wilson - R&B singer
    69. Carl Perkins - 'The King of Rockabilly'
    70. The Police - Sold over 50 million albums world-wide. Highest paid musical act of 2008
    71. Frank Zappa - American composer. Phenomenal guitarist
    72. AC/DC - They've had countless hits, and are one of the most popular bands around. I'm surprised they weren't higher
    73. Radiohead - Glad to see them gettin' some love, but they were placed ahead of some great legends. Maybe a few years down the road I would put them here
    74. Hank Williams - Country singing legend
    75. The Eagles - Could be higher. Their greatest hits album was the 2nd greatest selling album of all time
    76. The Shirelles - Girl group in the 60's. The first to get a #1 single on the Billboard 100.
    77. Beastie Boys - Jewish hiphop group. Never would have guessed they'd be successful, but they were
    78. The Stooges - Highly influencial in punk-rock
    79. The Four Tops - American R&B quartet. Are noted for having a baritone for a lead singer(stubbs)
    80. Elvis Costello - English musician, singer-songwriter
    81. The Drifters - American R&B vocal group
    82. Eminem - Has many awards, including an Academy award for 'best original song' for 2002's 'Lose Yourself'
    83. N.W.A. - Gangsta-rap group from the eighties. Dr. Dre and Ice Cube were in this group
    84. James Taylor - American singer/songwriter and guitarist from Boston
    85. Black Sabbath - RS never really liked Black Sabbath. If memory serves me correctly, their first review of Sabbath went something like 'Should they even exist?...'. I would place them in the top 40 at least
    86. Tupac Shakur - Rap artist. The first to have an album go to #1 while in jail.
    87. Gram Parsons - Country singer. Died at age 26
    88. Miles Davis - Jazz trumpet player
    89. The Yardbirds - English rock group. Introduced us to Clapton, Page, and Beck
    90. Carlos Santana - Solo guitar player. His band has consisted of about 40 people over the years
    91. Ricky Nelson - American singer with over 50 Hot 100 hits
    92. Guns n Roses - 'Appetite for Destruction' was the best thing they ever did. Too bad they weren't consistent
    93. Booker T. and the MG's - Instrumental soul band. One of the first inter-racial groups
    94. Nine Inch Nails - Trent Reznor is Nine Inch Nails. He's pretty much the only member
    95. Lynyrd Skynyrd - American southern rock band
    96. Martha and the Vandellas - Female R&B group
    97. Diana Ross and the Supremes - Popular female singing group of the 60's
    98. Roxy Music - English rock group from the 70's. They re-formed in 2001
    99. Curtis Mayfield - American soul singer
    100. Lee 'Scratch' Perry - Influencial figure in Reggae music

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    who got it right or better yet did the best job ?
     
  2. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    My beef with both list is they have no Luther vandross and no teddy pendegrass. those cats laid it down and Vh1 dont have prince. what no prince.

    Luther, teddy and prince not on vh1 but they have alicia keys, beyonce , depece mode and pretenders.

    oh come on. What about INXS ?
     
  3. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    Are you saying Prince isn't on there? He's number 7.




    And Curtis Mayfield better have made it. Dude was the shit. Woulda been bullshit if he didn't. and I like how they call Parliament a Soul Band.
     
  4. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Ok. I didnt see him. do you think they put him in the right spot tho versus rolling stone. oh yeah parliament....I saw that too. I was like huh...there are a funk band.
     
  5. Nico

    Nico Banned

    They both are extremely horrible.

    However I'll take Rolling Stone over VH1.



    In the updated list VH1 placed Michael Jackson as the #2 artist of all time, that's laughable.

    I can show you a much better list of 100 if you like.
     
  6. TERRASTAR18

    TERRASTAR18 Well-Known Member

    both lists are a joke....mj is # 1 period....to me the beatles are overrated, the just stole from soul music.....they aren't half as popular as mj.
     
  7. Rayban Man

    Rayban Man New Member

    In the RS list is horrendous. How did Stevie and MJ not crack the top 10? How did MJ not even make the top 20, thats insane. And Im gonna go head and say it Beatles, The Stones and U2 most overrated musical acts ever.
     
  8. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    Some of you let your own taste lead you. Its not about that.
    Take your own taste in music completely out of the equation and look at it objectively. Even if you don't like them, try to understand what made them big and what they were in their contemporary time, and why.

    Saying that someone is overrated is based on your own taste, millions disagree with you.

    I surely don't get some on the list based on my own taste, but I can step out of that and get why they are there - objectively.


    However, having that said;
    That MJ ended up 35 in one of them due to the fact that he was "wacko" is a prime example of that (and Im not a huuuuge MJ fan).

    Someone who makes lists like this for HV1 and RS ought to be able to leave personal taste and opinion out of it and make an objective list.
     
  9. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    I would LOVE to see your list! That would be interesting.
     
  10. Nico

    Nico Banned


    I know too much about music to let my own personal opinion cloud my judgement.

    35 is a fine place for M.J.

    He never achieved any amazing feat in music and none of his albums are groundbreaking or innovative. Is he good? Yes, but not top 10 good.

    The problem with M.J. is that he's been shoved down our throats for nearly 30 years and most people don't know shit about music which is why they'd place him in the top 10.

    Michael Jackson in a top 10 artist list is like having Avatar in a top 10 movie list. Are they both enjoyable good movies? Yeah, but obviously if someone has Avatar in their top 10 list you have to question how much they know about movies. I feel the same for Michael Jackson and music.

    Are you being sarcastic? Sorry can't tell.
     
    Last edited: May 14, 2011
  11. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    No, I wanna see if you can be objective. From what you have posted in the past about music , I'm dying to see your list. Although I do sarcasm a lot, this is not the time.
     
  12. Nico

    Nico Banned

    ha well I can give you my top 10. These aren't my personal favorite 10, but I think they're the best to ever record music.





    The Beatles
    Radiohead
    Bob Dylan
    The Rolling Stones
    The Velvet Underground
    Led Zeppelin
    David Bowie
    Neil Young
    Miles Davis
    Pink Floyd


    I look at innovation, songwriting(minus Miles Davis), influence, and range meaning not every album sounds the same.


    Arcade Fire is in my personal top 5 and it's really hard not to put them on that list. However with only 3 albums I don't think they've done enough yet. Make no mistake though, Funeral is one of the best albums ever recorded.
     
    Last edited: May 14, 2011
  13. vaudeville

    vaudeville New Member

    It's all bullshit, white people always trying rank something. 100 best guitarists, 100 best schools. I'm waiting for the 100 best bitches within a 10 mile radius list.
     
  14. z

    z Well-Known Member

    LMAO.
     
  15. Nico

    Nico Banned

    You say that now but wait till you see that list and see your family members on it.
     
  16. FG

    FG Well-Known Member


    Not bad, a definite top 10 is hard, I would say all of those sans Radiohead belongs in the top 20-30. Just ten is hard. I love Radiohead but I surely don't think they belong in the top 10, or 20, or 30.
    Thats my objective take on it. I don't like Bob Dylan but think he belongs there for sure.
     
  17. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    OH FUCK!!!!!!:smt036
     
  18. Rayban Man

    Rayban Man New Member

    Lol. Shots fired:smt068
     
  19. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I just wonder what were the standards they used to come up with the list
     
  20. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    i would like to know that too.
     

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