It is what it is...

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Anten7, Aug 29, 2010.

  1. Espy

    Espy New Member

    I find in general you cannot make a comment of a negative nature without it being assumed that you mean it as an insult. If a woman says another woman has a big ass, it isn't because you have eyes and are simply stating the obvious, it because you're being catty. If you make a personal observation about yourself like 'I have a big ass', people assume you have no self-esteem, when in fact you are simply being realistic and acknowledging your big ass, it doesn't mean you don't like it that way, just that you actually see it for what it is. Some people are simply masters of the obvious, however most of the world doesn't understand that for whatever reason. Perhaps because they've gotten so used to people telling them what they want to hear, instead of the truth?
     
  2. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    yeah , people can be hypersensitive. When posting online it is hard to see if the person is being mean-spirited, just being funny or they just giving an benign assessment
     
  3. Anten7

    Anten7 New Member

    A woman told me that I had a "horse's ass." I looked at her strangely because I didn't understand what she meant. She then proceeded to slap my ass as hard as she possibly could. After the initial shock, It became clear what she meant by it - and I didn't take it personally. Now Espy, if I told you that "your ass is so round and thick that I want to bite it like a steak" - you'd be fine with that too, right?
     
  4. Espy

    Espy New Member

    I'd laugh at you, then depending upon how serious I judged you to be, I would politely warn you that touching me without an invitation is ill advised.

    I find that people sometimes say the oddest things, and I assure you that's not even the worst I've heard. I rarely hold anything against someone, and pretty much everyone gets a second and third chance to make a first impression with me.
     
  5. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    people can definitely get bold on the net. lol
     
  6. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Oh I find them just as bold, if not worse in person. Most people online are pretty tame in comparison goodlove.
     
  7. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    This is very true, especially the part in bold. I have run across so much resistance and subtle negativity (from outside sources, friends and family) towards my own search for the path I'm meant to be on.

    I had a discussion about this with a friend a few weeks ago. I said that I don't want to be "domesticated" in that, spending my life with someone who won't challenge me to be the best person I can be and who won't go out on a limb with me to find out the person they truly are. He replied with: it's domestication or die trying. My reply back to him was: I'd rather spend my life in the die trying lane.
     
  8. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    wow. It just seem to me that the real evil of a person come out when they are online because you cant get a hold to them like you can in person
     
  9. Anten7

    Anten7 New Member

    nicely put...
     
  10. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Undoubtedly I think some people use the anonymity that the web provides to be who they wish they were, and some use it to pretend to be whatever furthers their agenda... like women posing as men for instance, and those that question the validity of everyone else when they themselves are not who they appear to be. No doubt some people become more bold online, bolstered by the knowledge that people will never meet them and find out who they really are, or what they are really like. However all things considered, I'll take the man or woman who thinks they are completely bad ass online, over the one who is a complete asshole in real life. If someone irritates you online, you can just log off and go about your merry way... when they are standing a foot in front of you giving you shit, they're harder to get rid of.
     
  11. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    no doubt .

    for men...it gets into a man thang then thats where blows are thrown. most of the time a man would try to side step the thang because he dont want to go to jail or mess his clothes up. but the knuckle head wanna flex because his friends are watching or his girl who he wanna impress. you know dumb shit.
     
  12. Espy

    Espy New Member

    True, with men pride often enters the equation to the point that a man doesn't feel he can back down without losing face. I tell my son frequently that being able to kick someone's ass isn't a sign of strength, and backing down isn't a sign of weakness. It truly takes more strength IMO to be the bigger person and walk away from someone who is being inappropriate with you, than it does to shut them up by force. Just about anyone can clean someone's clock given the right provocation, not doing that is sometimes the far more difficult thing to do.

    However, I will say that in general everyday life I find women to be far more confrontational than men. As long as no alcohol, drugs, or other judgment impairing situations are at play, men tend to leave folks be. Women on the other hand will flat out get in your face if the mood strikes them, but generally I find they'll approach a man that way quicker than they'll approach a woman disrespectfully. I'm guessing that's due to a false sense of security on the part of the woman, her belief that most men won't be as aggressive towards a woman who is out of line as they would be with a man. This does tend to be the case, though I don't happen to agree with that stance. I also notice this seems to hold true online as well. Women appear more likely to speak up or push something and refuse to budge, while men appear to be much more mellow. I'm not sayin' that's all women, there are exceptions, but personally that's what I've observed most frequently.
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    So true. I got inot an arguement with some chick when I was younger and she ended the conversation with your momma's a bitch and all I could think was no guy would say that and not brace for a punch in the face. Unfortunately a lot of women believe they have some type of invisible force field that entitles them to say what they want to men at any given time but that's society's fault too. Any altercation between a man and woman always makes a guy look bad especially if the girl is crying. Crying seems to be the woman's automatic get out of any responsibility play because even if you did nothing you look guilty.
     
  14. Espy

    Espy New Member

    I think a great deal of that is due to men being raised with the 'you never hit a woman' belief. Sadly men aren't the only ones who got that message. I know some women who believe that this entitles them to do or say anything they like, with no accountability whatsoever.

    I personally was raised to believe that you defend yourself regardless of who poses the threat, anyone touching you deserved to be dealt with by whatever means necessary to ensure your own safety, or the safety of others, but that your response had to be proportional... the standard you don't bring a knife to a fist fight, or a gun to a knife fight mentality. But I was also told that I should never put my hands on anyone unless I was prepared for them to respond in kind, and that not everyone followed an appropriate code of conduct so essentially if you started something you needed to be prepared for them to finish it. You never know what someone is capable of, and people often surprise you when physical violence comes into play, so it's just never a good idea to push someone or back them into a corner so that they have no choice but to fight back.

    I will say that I have never insulted someone's family, unless that was the topic of conversation and I knew what I was talking about. Nothing pisses a person off worse than listening to someone bad mouth their people. You can say anything you like to me about myself and I'll just blow you off, but you talk about my siblings or kids and I will respond. I think every altercation I have ever been in, save one, was prompted by some type of racially motivated or shitty comment about a family member. In that one respect my buttons were really easy to push when I was younger. I consider myself a really reasonable and level-headed person. but that just always really set me off, so I'm sure not going to say something violence provoking to someone else. Besides it's just rude to talk about people when you really don't know what the hell you're talking about, and it's pretty much a pussy move to make in the first place.
     
  15. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    let me start with this . I dont want start a lets bash women thang going but i agree with you. it gets worst. i have experienced this and so have other men where women do some slick stuff. I had my ex wife do some serious stuff. she forged my name and wrecked my credit . when i found out i reported it to the police. she came back and stated (after she got arrested) you would arrest the mother of your child. I replied yeah, you had no problem stealing, lying, forging my name, destroying my credit, cheating and keeping me away from my daughter and Im the father of the baby and you have no problem to doing those things to the father of the baby . thus getting you are arrested is actually saving and helping my daughter.

    you realized she stated "Im the mother of yoyur baby. dont arrest me." she stooped as low as using my child as a tool to get out of trouble as though she is entitled to do crazy shit.

    she was totally silent . the problem is sometimes a person can be viewed as weak when you are kind to a person. NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE HER . I (we) just have to be on your toes in trying to see if the person you are dating is an evil/slick ass woman.
     
  16. I'm real.
     
  17. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    This guy is gone. I am also having doubts that you are not connected to him in some way. You even picked up some of the same fights he left off at.
     

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