Is jerry Rice the best football player ever

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  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Reasons why Rice is NFL’s greatest player

    By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
    Aug 6, 6:03 pm EDT


    Jerry Rice dominated the '80s and '90s as the game's best wide receiver. He ended his career with three Super Bowl titles.

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    CANTON, Ohio – Colts president Bill Polian has no idea where to begin or end the conversation when asked to name the greatest football player.

    “It’s like asking me who is the greatest hitter of all time. I’ll start with Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle and you can take your pick,” said Polian, who is a big baseball fan from his days growing up in New York.

    In other words, Polian is asked, you’d be fine with the No. 4 pick.

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    “Exactly,” he said.

    Picking the greatest football player is a similar equation. Is it Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana or some other quarterback because that’s the most game’s most demanding job? Is it Jim Brown because his staggering career numbers stand the test of time? Is it Reggie White because he was a game-changing force on defense?

    As hard as this question is to answer (and as hard as it is for this boyhood Los Angeles Rams fan to write), the pick may be one of the seven men who will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday.

    Jerry Rice.

    “Oh man, that’s a good one,” said former NFL quarterback and long-time assistant coach Zeke Bratkowski, whose pro career started in 1954. “Rice, Jim Brown, Unitas … I don’t know how you decide.

    There are four reasons Rice is atop the list.

    Stats don’t lie
    What Rice did to receiving numbers is what Babe Ruth did to home run numbers. When Rice retired, he had nearly 50 percent more receptions (1,549), yards (22,895) and total touchdowns (208) than the closest player in all those categories. He still has more than 400 more receptions than the next guy (Marvin Harrison(notes)).

    Some of that is due to playing 20 seasons, but it’s not as if Rice was simply playing out the string. He made the Pro Bowl 13 times (tied for second-most of any player) and was named first-team All-Pro 10 times. He was twice the NFL Offensive Player of the Year, was named to the All-Decade team for both the 1980s and 1990s and was named to the NFL’s 75th Anniversary team.

    He’s got rings
    Rice was a champion and played significant roles in big games. He helped the 49ers win three Super Bowls (1989, 1990 and 1995) and helped Oakland get to the Super Bowl in the 2002 season. In the three victories with San Francisco, Rice had 215, 148 and 149 yards receiving. He was MVP of Super Bowl XXIII, where he had his most receiving yards in any of his title games.

    He got the most from his talent
    Rice was an overachiever with a tireless work ethic. At practice, Rice finished every catch he made by running all the way to the end zone. In the offseason, he led teammates on an exhausting regimen that included running up hills in the Bay Area.

    He redefined the position
    Rice changed the game. This is a standard few players achieve. Unitas did that with the passing game and with his play under pressure in historic games, such as the 1958 NFL title game.

    Rice showed the NFL that the passing game was more than a phase and that wide receivers weren’t simply occasional contributors. Since Rice, receiving numbers have increased, the use of three- and four-receiver sets has become prevalent, and teams throughout the league consistently throw more than they run. Rice made receivers into essential players, so much so that they are considered more important than running backs these days.


    The Jerry Rice-Joe Montana tandem devastated opponents for 55 regular-season touchdowns and 13 in the postseason.

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    “His influence is pretty dramatic,” Bratkowski said. “The 49ers were already on the way there, but what Bill Walsh and Joe Montana did with Rice was more extensive than anybody ever did.”

    Here’s a look at the NFL’s top 10 players:

    1. Rice – For all the above reasons.


    2. Jim Brown – Brown dominated in every way imaginable. His stats were stunning (he averaged more than 100 yards rushing per game). Physically, he was tough and fast. He was also a huge man by the standards of the day, sometimes not much smaller than some of the linemen he faced. Brown is one of the greatest all-around athletes in the history of American sports.

    3. Johnny Unitas – When Unitas retired, he owned every important passing statistic. He was a champion, an important player in critical games and, in some ways, was a mythic figure by the end of his career. He was the John Wayne of football with his blend of talent and toughness.

    4. Joe Montana – Montana led the 49ers to four Super Bowl victories and posted stunning numbers along the way. He returned from injury to win titles and was perhaps the greatest pressure player in the history of the game. He also took Walsh’s West Coast system and perfected it. The system’s principles are used in just about every offense in the league today.

    5. Reggie White – At 6-foot-5, 300 pounds, White had a defensive tackle’s body and the speed to play defensive end. He finished his career with 198 sacks despite playing primarily at left end, as opposed to the right side where most speed rushers play. If White hadn’t spent two years in the USFL, he might still hold the sacks record.

    6. Bruce Smith – If you draw up what a right defensive end is supposed to look like, it’s Smith. He was gifted in just about every athletic way you could imagine. In a league where great pass rushers run second only to great quarterbacks, Smith is the standard for pure pass rusher.

    7. Lawrence Taylor – People who played against Taylor still believe he might be the greatest athlete they ever saw on a football field. His combination of size, speed and power was unreal. He may be the greatest linebacker in the history of the game and revolutionized the use of the 3-4 defense.

    8. Dick Butkus – Butkus defined the malevolence of the game in the 1960s. His huge size (6-foot-3, 245 pounds) made him fearsome and he remains the prototype for that position. Every middle or inside linebacker in the game is measured against Butkus.

    9. Anthony Munoz – When Bratkowski was asked to select players for an imaginary game of all-time greats, Munoz was his first selection. Great left tackles are a staple of the modern game (somebody has to block guys like Smith and Taylor). Munoz is the standard for that position.

    10. Joe Greene – Mean Joe was the lynchpin of Pittsburgh’s famed Steel Curtain defense, which was the foundation of the most dominating team of any era. The Steelers won four titles in six years and only injuries prevented them from going six for six. Greene combined White’s power and Butkus’ ferocity.
     
  2. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Since I am a 49ers fan, I'll say yes as a wide receiver.
     
  3. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    what about over all as a football player
     
  4. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    It is hard to make a decision like that. It isn't like the nba where the positions are very close. In the NFL, one person is a QB and another is a WR. Those two positions are very different. I'll have to say he is good at being a WR but I would have to see him do all the positions to say he is the best. His height would not be good for a running back. Off the back(no pun intended), I would think that he would be bad at that.
     
  5. glt1980

    glt1980 Well-Known Member

    Greatest reciever of all time without a doubt. But greatest player of all time that is a little harder to acknowledge. All time great player certainly, but ask yourself this if he had played in a different style of offense would he put up such huge numbers. You have to certainly have to think that if he were in a different offense some of his numbers would not be as huge as they are.

    The west coast offense was the perfect system for him to play in, an offense with lots of quick short passes, predicated on timing and precise routes. He wasn't the fastest or most physical receiver, but he was one of the smoothest, most controlled, and greatest of route runners, and off course had excllent hands.
     
  6. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

    Greatest WR of all-time? Yes

    Greatest player of all-time? No

    Greatest WR that will ever have played the game? Yes

    Will we ever see another WR in our lifetime like Jerry Rice or better? No
     
  7. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    according to the article he changed the course of the game where no one has like him
     
  8. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Down to earth guy, happy for the man. Reping folks classy way...Rice is b4 my time but he is da man.
     
  9. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Jerry Rice was greater at his position than any NFL player was at theirs, so yes, I buy the argument that he was the most outstanding player in NFL history.

    BTW, I can't wait until dude comes out the closet.:smt039

    You know....:twisted:
     
  10. z

    z Well-Known Member

    what??? Rice is a flamer?????

    He looks soft during interview and stuff but I did not expect this. I hope not! I think he has a son who suppose to be a star in foot ball team or something?
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2010
  11. Cannondale

    Cannondale Active Member

    I can't say he's the best, but at the same time, I can't dispute it either .

    It's really hard to compare the different positions because they're all so different. But if you're going to have that debate as to who's THE best, he's in that convo, without a doubt!
     
  12. Raul Sinclair

    Raul Sinclair New Member

    +1. In football, I will not say there's one great player of them all. So many different positions on offense and defense. Show me a player who could've played Quarterback, Running-back, Corner-back and Safety. All equally well. That player will be the Greatest player in Football
     
  13. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    Fritz Pollard would get a strong look at. Jim Thorpe would be another
     
  14. LaydeezmanCris

    LaydeezmanCris New Member

    Certainly the best receiver to play the game. Followed by Cris Carter and then Michael Irvin
     

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