Modest men less succesfull with women.

In my mind meek is someone who is willingly submissive, prone to give in to keep the peace, or to avoid being violent. Weak is someone who doesn't have a choice in the matter, they just are submissive and they don't know how to be anything else. Semantics I know, but as I always say, the only definition that truly matters to me is the one I accept.

 

Well said

 

Thanks babe. That's actually something that irritates me. I knew a guy who used to literally look stuff up in the dictionary and send me alternate meanings to words to prove to me that the way I chose to use them was in-congruent with what he considered to be the most common usage. I just could not get it through his head that it really didn't matter what Websters had to say on the matter, if I knew what I meant, and the people I was talking to knew what I meant, whether it was the most accepted form of usage was completely irrelevant. That guy really pissed me off on a regular basis, he was such a total dick.

 

Check out 2:18 on. It made me think of what you were saying.

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Spot on babe. :smt023

 

There are way too many ill thought out opinions to address each and every one in this thread but I will lay it out like this--

First of all there is a difference between being confident and being arrogant and there is a difference between being modest and being a pushover. Many of you are trying to mend confidence and arrogance into the same thing. There is a clear cut difference between confidence in it's pure sense and blind arrogance.

Even in the caveman days arrogance was as big of a weakness as being a passive pushover (if not more) because your arrogance tends to lead you and your family into dangerous situations that you think you can (but can't) handle. Arrogance isn't a survival trait: in fact it's that exact opposite and it's a weakness that actually stems from low self-esteem.

Now most women don't like a complete spineless pushover but confidence, modesty and the knowledge of when to be passive and when to take control is what attracts women that know better.

Now, there is no denying that there are many women that do go for the arrogant/boastful bums but these women are generally dysfunctional, damaged goods with issues and of course most of them will never admit they go for bums because many don't even recognize their patterns themselves. Women like this aren't worthy of your time and should be no reflection on you as a REAL man.

 

wow a man that gets it and can explain it at the same time...i stand by my post in a different thread modesty is a rare trait that few men are smart enough to wear well...so damn sexy!:smt050

 

That's simply what I deduced from your juxtaposition and I think it was a fairly understandable deduction.

I couldn't care less whether people agree with me or not. Disagreements are a common and inevitable part of life. It's nothing personal really. I don't even fit in with my friends to be honest.

 

What up, Madiba.

I agree with the article to an extent. If a person doesn't brag about himself is that considered being meek? If a person talks about himself too much that can be a turnoff also.

They say if you have to tell people how great you are, you really aren't...lol

I think the person's body language plays an important part also. If a man has weak body language (slumped shoulders, no eye contact, etc.) he might be considered weak by the ladies.

He'll be shot down like a plane with no pilot before he can make his initial approach! LOL

 

its always been said obey the 20/80 rule....20% you are talking and she 80% talking and you are to just steer the convo to ur good qualities. 101 mackism

 

One must be skilled in the art of storytelling. Therefore he can exhibit his personality and attributes without seeming to be bragging

 

well stated.

 

Its all a circumstantial thing. There is the one person who just has the neck for raising the excited "boy spirit" within into high clouds, while another has the charm stick that brings the silent gentleman to the arena...mmh!

 

Very true. And it helps if they ask or inquire first. That means they are interested on you or your hobbies.

I'm thinking more along the lines of people who start talking about themselves and their accomplishments without being asked, or those who will find a way to turn the topic of convo to be about them.

Now THAT'S lame... Lol

 

Very true. Women love when a guy's a good listener!

 

We surely do! lol

 

LOL. an honest woman