Speaking impolitely about White Men

Agree with everything you said here Bookie. But on the subject of blame, I think it's time to stop always looking for someone, or something to blame period. Shit happens, whatever it is why waste all your time trying to figure out whose fault it is, just fix it and move on. It's much more efficient and productive. Look back later, see what you can learn from the experience. But beyond that it's better to just deal with it and let it go.

 

Exactly.

And the blame game does nothing but help promote division amongst all of us.

What good can come of that? Absolutely none.

 

Agreed. Sadly I think entirely too many people are completely unwilling or unable to accept their own fault in any given situation, therefore they always seek someone to blame. It is literally some people's first reaction to any type of negative experience or crisis... well whose fault is this, cause it darn sure isn't going to be mine. I think they so desperately refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions, that they will search until they find someone else to pin that on. Maybe personal responsibility is something we no longer stress, or maybe people just don't like to be wrong, I don't honestly know, but it irritates the hell out of me.

 

Well I can rep you and I did. Good post book.
The unfortunate thing is the masses are a bunch of scared dummies who will willingly eat the poison as long as their bellies are momentarily full.

 

Only read the first two pages and there was enough retarded statements in the OP to smh.

But carry on...

RACE WAAAAAAARRRR

 

That's not accurate read the whole thing.

 

All 11 pages??? No thanks. Thats not how I want to spend my Sunday

But joking aside I do think some folks have made some level headed comments in here regarding having anomosity towards wm or bw. I guess I just cant relate to that built up anomosity though. When I see a white guy walking down the street I dont get in his face and demand that he apologize for slavery or the Jim Crow laws (why? because HE didnt have anything to do with it)

Just a counter productive way of looking at things IMO.

 

bwhahhaahahahahahhaahahhaha
:smt043

 

This we can definitely agree on

 

andrae, my first post in this was premature so my apologizes there man. I am reading thru this read and its quite entertaining actually (esp on page 4 where lipstick catches feelings lol). Boy, some folks really do get worked up on here sometimes

 

We have become a world of over sensative ninnies. Everything is so damn offensive. What's funny is the things that should make us mad people completely over look daily.

 

I respectfully disagree with your assessment of why KY votes Republican. In my opinion, it's not in the hopes of becoming rich. The Republican party has been very successful in promoting itself as the 'moral' party, especially when it comes to the issue of abortion. Unfortunately, many churches have also linked themselves with the Republican party because of these 'moral' issues. Considering that KY is in the Bible belt, it would stand to reason why they have a tendency to vote Republican.

When I began my college career, it was at a private Christian university. I was a freshman there in 1992, which was the Bush-Clinton Presidential election. I remember being told in our commons area that I was going to hell for voting for Clinton. I took the liberty to enlighten those individuals as to why I was voting for Clinton and that my vote had no bearing on my personal salvation. I'm sure that I didn't change those individuals mind, but they didn't change mine either. Unfortunately, some individuals have been raised to believe that a vote for the Democratic Party is like a vote for the devil.

 

I believe the same is true for Kansas GG. It is primarily their moral convictions, no matter how ill-placed, that result in aligning themselves with the Republican party. If you were to ask the majority of them why they vote Republican you'd likely get an answer along the lines of 'because I do', or 'because my families always been Republican'. I learned a long time ago to not discuss politics with most of the people I grew up with in Kansas, because they cannot intelligently discuss that subject. The instant you bring logic into the discussion, they get bent outta shape because they don't know why they believe as they do, it's just what they've been told to think forever and anyone who challenges that scares them.

 

Interesting GG. My third year in college we did a study on voting patterns in states like Kansas and a lot of studies showed a pull yourself up by the bootstraps mentality and fiscal conservatism but the religion thing is something to consider. Thanks for posting that.

 

Religion is a big consideration in Bible belt states Andrae. I grew up in a town of 3500 people, and there were 33 churches. That's what I would consider heavy religious saturation, and it tends to lead to very conservative views.

 

Wow God help them

 

I agree. Whenever you are dealing with the Bible Belt, religion is going to play a factor in people's views and beliefs. While on a family vacation, we attended a church where the preacher stated that no one could vote for whomever the Democratic presidential candidate was at the time and consider themselves a Christian. He barely had finished his sentence when my dad stood up and we left. When we got in the car, my dad told us that's not what Christianity is about, and he would not listen to such nonsense. We had a short Bible study in the car and went on our merry way. I hate when religion and politics mix. They are not one in the same.

You're welcome, Andrae. I think that the fiscal conservatism has to do with the religious mindset as well. Many feel that the church should be helping individuals that are in need, instead of the government. I agree that the church does have a responsibility to help those in need; however, unfortunately, many churches are not meeting the needs of the community so the government must step in to help.

 

Good for your Dad GG. Far too many people believe everything that comes out of the preacher's mouth, or they just sit in silent disagreement. I know that some people don't really want to make a decision, or stand up to be counted on issues like religion, however I was taught that doing nothing is making a decision and it's the most cowardly choice you can make. You also never know who is watching and waiting to draw strength from someone else. I believe people often find inspiration in the most unlikely sources, I would never want to be the person who does nothing and inspires someone else to do the same.

 

wow GG your dad sounds awesome...i love that type of conviction...it just gives me chills hearing about someone that was willing to stand up and say this is not right and i won't subscribe...incredible:smt029

 

Go to church while on vacation? ???

If congregations spent as much time fighting for righteousness (social justice) instead of espousing the mythology of the scriptures, pastors wouldn't be concerned with which party to vote for.

The Religious Right is part of the problem, not the solution.

Until so-called religious people take it back from the Zealots, I will not set another foot in a church.

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