Mens´wish of having Baby

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by christine dubois, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    PICKY!

    Under 30 (if possible, up to 35)
    Over 5'5, Under 180lbs
    Caucasian or Hispanic

    This is actually much harder than it sounds....
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2010
  2. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    Wrong, last serious GF - 28

    Russian, 25
    Ukrainian, 22
    Norwegian, 28
    Germany 27, 32 and 34

    All the Germans and the Norwegian has at least one child. Its much harder to have a child the first time at that age than to have had a second, third or fourth.

    @Jordan, did I say it was impossible? According to the March of Dimes its 1 in every 400. Tony Braxton's daughter has autism, I think she was in her mid 30's when she gave birth. The simple matter of the fact IS, that its much better to have your children in your 20's than in your 30's or 40's.

    Today's women are more educated as referenced by your mates working as an engineer for example. But the reality is they are waiting much longer to have their first child and that number has only increased since 1990, look at the CDC chart I posted.

    So like I said, several times now, women are picking career over all else, like it will make some sort of difference. Yes you'll have a nicer car and a nicer home, but you'll also be much older and find it more difficult to find "Mr. Right" and the results of your divorce will be just about the same with the man paying child support and alimony.
     
  3. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    You better watch out. Your clock it ticking. Pretty soon women will pass you up. :p

    I was at the library a few months back waiting for a friend to pick up his stuff. As I waited I skimmed a book they had on display and started reading. I thought was interesting. I was thinking in my head if it held true to the men I know:



    The age varies from man to man, but there are patterns that are easily identified:

    Most men who graduate from high school start thinking of marriage as a real possibility when they are twenty-three or twenty-four.

    Most men who graduate from college don’t start considering marriage as a real possibility until age twenty-six.

    When men go to graduate school, it takes them longer to get into the working world, and they’re not ready to get married until a few years after that.

    Ninety percent of men who have graduated from college are ready for the next step between ages twenty-six and thirty-three; this is when they are most likely to consider marriage. But this window of opportunity stays open only for four to five years, and then the chances a man will marry start to decline.

    A majority of college graduates between twenty-eight and thirty-three are in their high-commitment years and likely to propose.

    This period for well-educated men lasts just a bit over five years. The chances men will commit are sightly less when they are thirty-one or thirty-two than when they were between twenty-eight and thirty, but they’re still in a high-commitment phase.

    Once men reach thirty-three or thirty-four, the chances they’ll commit start to diminish, but only slightly. Until men reach thirty-seven, they remain very good prospects.

    After age thirty-eight, the chances they will ever marry drop dramatically.


    The chances that a man will marry for the first time diminish even more once he reaches forty-two or forty-three. At this point, many men become confirmed bachelors.


    Once men reach age forty-seven to fifty without marrying, the chances they will marry do not disappear, but they drop dramatically.


    Read more: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/3088165/#ixzz0roQ3HPxA
     
  4. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member


    It is hard because of that over 5'5 requirement. The average american woman is 5'3(use to be 5'4). You just put yourself in a bind with the over 5'5 requirement. I got the same problem myself. Mines is 5'4 though. That's the first thing.

    The second thing is the under 30. People do not want to date more than 5 years in difference in age range. Too much maturity and experience between the two. Marriages with this time difference often fail. My last question is why would you want to. You have women in their 30’s that don’t play these games that I have to handle with the 20 something gals. They know what they want.
    two. You are heading to 40 . you need
     
  5. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I did say probably so not really wrong. I don't know why you are picking from my age group of women. My age group has some of the highest divorce rates and break ups. So much advantages to dating someone closer to your age range. They know what has gone on.
     
  6. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I agree with this article. the longer you are in school, the longer it takes for you to get financially stable in the real world.


    I like this part.


    That's what I intend to do lol.
     
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  7. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    I had seen that before, it was a point of discussion awhile back. Its mostly true.

    Our contention is standards from a woman's point of view stay nice and high from 18 to about 32. Then reality sets in...

    My age range is powered almost strictly around the fact I want children. Income potential, level of education are not factors. Small areas of concern are mental health, political position and general outlook on life.
     
  8. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    Who said I was picking from your age group of women in the United States or Canada????
     
  9. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    Define "Financially Stable", this should be interesting.
     
  10. NCBradin

    NCBradin New Member

    Very interesting thread to talking about it. As of right now, I'm back off not to talking about it. Not now.
     
  11. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Who said that I said that you were picking from my age group of women in the United States or Canada????
     
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  12. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I got a question for you. Did you bring up your baby question when you were in your late teens/early twenties on dates?
     
  13. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I wish you had shown me this article earlier. This was a good read about myself if I ever get that old.
     
  14. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Mental health is a small area of concern? I would think since you are scope-locked on a woman who is capable of giving you children, whether she is bat shit crazy or not would be more than a 'small area of concern'?
     
  15. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    If she is crazy then he gets the kids like k-fed and brittany!
     
  16. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Maybe, but some forms of mental illness are genetic, so I'd think that would be a major consideration for him?
     
  17. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Having enough money to take care of you and your family!
     
  18. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    If you understood cultural differences between Western Culture (United States, Canada, majority of Western Europe, Japan and Australia) countries and those not indoctrinated fully by Western Culture (which I won't identify you figure it out), then I would hope you understood that the reasons why they get divorced is largely different than why a majority of American women get divorced. In fact divorce rates are lower in much of the Western world than here.

    No, why? It didn't have anything to do with my financial status. Are you trying to prove that bringing it up freaks out Western Women? Are you from the "too much too soon" camp? My signals are clear and having children with just anybody is ridiculous, I've had more than ample opportunity to have children.
     
  19. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    I am concerned if she is bat shit crazy, but it "usually comes out in the wash".

    I do commend many women for hiding these thing well....
     
  20. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    You mean without public assistance?

    This is very cloudy issue and a bit off topic but not really. I'd say careful planning is more to the point. So I guess this would mean people with bad credit are not desirable either, that's quite a large swath of the population.

    Also I should is a mention I thought this was a 50-50 proposition, not 70-30, or even 90-10. You would never know it considering the resentment out there. Many women don't like they fact they are the bread winners at home, especially those with college degrees, this is not what they thought would happen to them.

    Is there such a thing as having enough money? Unless you require a gold plated crib and then feel unsafe having a small sedan/wagon/cuv and have to upgrade to a behemoth SUV for "safety" reasons, then I think the average income earner and those slightly below that can "afford" to have children, consider many families were raised on considerably less.

    If I can't live in Europe (still a possibility) than I will take many of its sensibilities and enforce them which means smaller and efficient. In those terms it will cost less overall and much of it up front.
     

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