Mens´wish of having Baby

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by christine dubois, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. Arwen

    Arwen New Member

    I would never ask anybody to have a child with me at the first, second or 20th date, but I would surely check if he plans to have kids in the future, since I want kids so bad.
    So so so bad :smt022
     
  2. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    me too
     
  3. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    It comes up in the first couple of dates.

    Why would it be wrong for a man to ask an unmarried, never married, childless woman how she felt about children? These are things over 30 you need to know otherwise its a waste of time.
     
  4. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    because the relationship may not even last that long. They may also be put off by it.
     
  5. Espy

    Espy New Member

    I don't see a problem with that. Like you said you don't ask them if they want to have your children, just if they want to have children period. I think that's fine. However some women I know consider it taboo to mention that early in a relationship, as they don't want the man to think they're getting serious too quickly.
     
  6. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    We run like lightening if we hear baby.
     
  7. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Hahahahaha! Some of you do, but that's fine, children are a personal choice. Some want kids, some don't. I think that's one of the more important things to make sure you are compatible on. But I imagine it's not as big a turnoff to women when a man brings it up, as it is the other way around.
     
  8. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    It really depends on the person. Particular the age! 20 something year olds are not looking to have kids. 30 and 40 something year olds are. Funny thing is the best time for women to have children is in her 20's. Odd things start to happen afterwards.
     
  9. Espy

    Espy New Member

    That's true, risk of pregnancy complications, etc. increases with age beginning at about 28 or 29 as I recall. That's not an absolute though, I had major complications at 24, and my mother had her last 2 in her 40s with no issues at all, so everyone is different. But in my experience I've noticed that men in their 40s get less set on having children. I've known a few that have no kids, and they don't want to give up their lives now to do that.
     
  10. BlackMasterJay

    BlackMasterJay Well-Known Member

    You do realize that chosenone hasnt posted in while right?

    Stop reviving old threads, moron
     
  11. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    I'll do as I please. You are the only moron here.
     
  12. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    You make it sound like some men are asking somewhere between the main course and desert. I can assure you its more subtle than that and most of my conversations happen online these days.

    Proof that Women are fully of it, I constantly get contacted by women over 40 when its clearly stated in my profile I want to have children, what? Am I going to modify my stance or something? I don't find this "adjustable" at all.

    Women don't read profiles either, they look at pictures.

    When I say I want children, that doesn't mean YOUR CHILDREN TOO, though if you look like this -

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    I could be talked into changing my mind...
     
  13. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    Dj4monie you are providing some great comedy with your foolishness here. Do you think at 40 a woman's uterus and ovaries explode? Look up Iman/David Bowie, John Travolta/Kelly Preston, Julianne Moore, Halle Berry, Nicole Kidman and I could go on and on finding you women over 40 (just giving you some famous over 40 moms) who have given birth to healthy children. You are 39? So is it so ridiculous for these women to *think* you might click?
     
  14. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    You made reference to women who are are not the average woman. They can hire people to look after their kids. For a lot of women on the left side of the bell curve, they are going to be the ones chasing and taking care of the young ones and not to mention their career life will take a hit. Yes, average women do do it but in very low numbers compared to their peers that had their kids in the 20 and 30's. When they do do it, it is usually a low number like one or two. Biologically speaking, you are at more of an age of having trouble with the births(stillborn, duplicates or missing chromosomes).
     
  15. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    I knew Kelly Preston's name would be invoked here, its almost predictable...

    I don't quite see the comedic value of what I'm saying, I'm being utterly serious.

    Why are you using examples of women in popular culture as proxies for your argument? I knew once word got out that Kelly Preston@47 having a "replacement" pregnancy would give hope to more women over 35-40 that she to can delay, delay and delay until whenever to have children. This is exactly the same thing that has stopped population growth in Western Europe - http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db21.pdf

    I guess your not in tune with infertility problems often experienced by women over 35 - http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/14332_1155.asp

    Nobody on this web site has access to the same health care or doctors these women have access too. Cedar Sinai/UCLA is one of the best hospitals in the world and very expensive. I don't for see myself having the luxury of picking the best health care coverage available, which you would need given the potential problems.

    What several advocates of Healthy Children say is this basically -

    If you wanna have kids over 35, go ahead, but you certainly face more risk than a younger woman faces.

    IMHO there is basically no reason to delay child birth. Most delay it for things like finding the perfect grain of sand (the perfect mate), passing over the nice guy with a regular old job/unexciting career path. Many women have resorted to skipping the middle man (pun intended) altogether and get their eggs frozen -

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    Awwww she has MS, okay this is a poor example. Most women don't have any health issues to speak of; if you don't count bi-polar or some other "mental issue"

    "I can afford this child" = ME, ME, ME, ME

    Who is this "Mr. Right" = Being picky about the shit that doesn't matter.

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35224012/ns/today-today_books/#35234983

    I wish WW (Western Women), successful and attractive women can explain why their are single. THEY CAN'T!
     
  16. dj4monie

    dj4monie New Member

    Ding Ding! What she is talking about is extreme cases like I said with the best health care coverage, best doctors, whatever. I should mention that Preston/Travolta have a history of having children with health issues. The child that died suffered from Kawasaki Disease and had a history of seizures.

    These are things publicist don't tell you unless word gets out. These are private issues and I really don't wanna knows these things but the premise remains the same have children over 40 for most women -

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  17. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    I'd give you the names of my friends, everyday ordinary people who did the same but it would have appeared weird since you don't know them for point of reference. Hence I gave you famous people who we would both know by name.

    Heidi P...........my friend owns her own business...........last child, healthy boy, she gave birth at 42.

    Nicole M..............Engineer at Ratheon............gave birth at 45, healthy girl. This is her second pregnancy past 40 other was a boy.

    I have several more friends none of which are movie stars. Neither of these had fertility treatment or nannies to help with the kids. ORDINARY peeps.

    I have many more friends who are late 20's to 30's having kids. But all things are possible.............including babies past 40.
     
  18. JordanC

    JordanC Well-Known Member

    Why are YOU still single at 39?? Red flag. :smt042
     
  19. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    lol His other thing is that he is only 39 which means he is probably dating women who are also in their 30's so the 40's shouldn't be a concern until late 40's early 50's
     
  20. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    well that's proof of what I was saying. It is done but not as often as the 20 or 30 something year olds. Google the average age that a woman gives birth. It won't be in their 40's for the usa. It drops lower for people in developing countries. I also said they have few children. The Nicole M is proof of it. My own mother also had a kid in her 40's. That's why I never said it doesn't happen but she had more kids in her 30's than in her 40's.
     

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