As far as Italy is concerned, since I've not been there, I cannot give a critique on said fiefdom....yet.. Uh, the Brits? We've lived, loved, & worked there for a whopping 10 years...and though there IS prejudice/racism everywhere y'go...Mellisa & I (Mebbe because we *do* have mostly freethinkers, fellow artistes & such, from EVERY ethnicity & EVERY nation! [Well, almost, but close..] for our social circle) have *yet* to encounter ANY negativity in The U.K. ( with ONE curious exception....and THAT was from a Black American! Refer to : http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12739 ) As for Eastern Europeans....to this day, I *still* get approached (When I am alone) by interested (and IF my situation were different...interesting) Russian Femmes...I *do* politely let them know of my....ah...domestic situation. And I *do* have a couple of m8's that are from The (Former) Soviet Union..good buddies, all....sooooo................ Regrettable that you went through whatever you went through, m8.....But life goes on..Y'gotta keep punchin', buddy......... OpinionsCartoonStudios@Yahoo.Co.UK
I'm sorry but that's rubbish. Britain has one of the highest rates of interracial relationships as well as mixed race babies born in the entire world. I agreed with you to an extent about Eastern Europe and Russia but Britain? Absolutely no way. I've lived there for my entire adult life and that's just crap. My ex (black or east asian) boyfriends and I NEVER got any racist abuse.
London, England has the highest rates of interracial relationships not the rest of the UK cause it 92% white. Most European countries are majority white with tiny minorities. Total Population of Blacks in the United Kingdom England: 1,447,900 Scotland: 1,025 Wales: 7,069 Northern Ireland: 1,136 The percentage of Blacks in the United Kingdom is 2%. Breakdown of Ethnic Blacks in the United Kingdom Black Caribbean: 565,876 (1.0%) Black African: 485,277 (0.8%) Black (others): 97,585 (0.2%)
Was I just talking about blacks? Nope. I'm talking about INTERRACIAL relationships and the last time I looked, interracial did not just mean black and white. The ethnic population was 8% in 2002! That was EIGHT YEARS AGO. And yes most European countries have a black minority but that's just like the States. There's only really been immigration into Europe for about 70 years. One of ten children in the UK lives in a mixed race family, so when you're talking about the Brits being racist and all this crap, you are chatting absolute rubbish. Mate, I LIVE here. I know more than you. Sure, if you go to some crappy little village out in the countryside the majority of people living there would be white but look at Manchester, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham. Every third couple walking past you is in an interracial relationship. Every other people is black/asian/middle eastern/whatever whatever and nobody bats an eyelid. Yo
My comments were not based on interracial relationships. I thought the topic is "Most racist nations in the western world". The English have the worst type of racism. Its always very much undercurrent and they come as your friends. They are worse than the Germans, Boers, French and of course even when compared to the Eastern Europeans :smt105
Would you like me to start talking about how many racist attacks occur in the United States anually? Or monthly? Or weekly? I'm sorry but Britain is absolutely not one of the most racist countries, that's bollocks. And Toughsnail that is absolutely not true and is a cynical approach. Most people here will be your friend because they want to be your friend. I can honestly say that absolutely every single person I know my age and in my parents generation have got friends of different races who they just see as their friends and as people rather than black or asian. Racism exists here but it is mostly towards Middle Easterns and Eastern Europeans.
Rep on this fer ya, Luv..... By the way....as far as that stat in The States, wanna try *daily*? In just ONE city on any given 24-hour period? Just MY tuppence on this, but I seriously feel that Toughsnail just might...*might* have had just one beef with somebody there one-on-one....that "justifies" (and I use the term *loosely*..) his smearing every last denizen that walks that continent's grounds with the same brush.. I hate to tell ya, sport, but that is *also* the mark of a bigot..... Remember, not to judge a *whole group of people* for the actions of just a *few*....or the *one*.. OpinionsCartoonStudios@Yahoo.Co.UK
Um...what aspect of my opinion do you not understand, m8? I'm here to help. OpinionsCartoonStudios@Yahoo.Co.UK
This bit: Just MY tuppence on this, but I seriously feel that Toughsnail just might...*might* have had just one beef with somebody there one-on-one....that "justifies" (and I use the term *loosely*..) his smearing every last denizen that walks that continent's grounds with the same brush.. I hate to tell ya, sport, but that is *also* the mark of a bigot..... Remember, not to judge a *whole group of people* for the actions of just a *few*....or the *one*.. Write it like you wanted an "A" :smt038
Well, it can only be answered by *your* answering *my* new query: Expound further on *any* and *all* the negative experiences that you *did* have on your visits to said fiefdoms & cities. When the conversations here necessitates said commiserations and such, WE do it here *all the time*.. Being frank about it all is the *only* way one can progress forward to seek newer and more positive horizons. Just my tuppence again, m8.. OpinionsCartoonStudios@Yahoo.Co.UK
I not know what you are saying - medieval slang is beyond me :smt014 However with the BNP having lost all 12 council seats in dagneham (where is that?) and Barking. I have greater restored faith in the people of Britain!!!
Gee, in lieu of a BERLITZ translation, mebbe my opinions should be delivered by a translator of sorts....say, somebody who can deliver this *without* the colloquialisms and such that Toughsnail apparently cannot get into.. I'm here to help.. OpinionsCartoonStudios@Yahoo.Co.UK
He wants to know if your reason for thinking that Brits are racist comes from personal experience, since we're one of the most liberal and multicultural countries around.
russia, this is cliche as Hell fer me...fer ANYBODY to say..but in lieu of any other kudos I could otherwise express...because I am at a loss to..I've no other choice but to say *this*: YOU GO, GIRL! And WE are all still waiting for YOUR answer to MY query, Toughnails. OpinionsCartoonStudios@Yahoo.Co.UK
Thanks Russia, it would have even been clearer in Zulu or Ngoni. As to the question, I thought I had already stated this from my first post on this topic, but regardless the answer is "Of course - Yes". I do agree that the UK is liberal and multicultural but I also think the racism in the UK is skin deep whilst the French (example) its more about assimilation. Also the Brits are not as outspoken about their racism whilst the French are, which in my books is worse. I rather see the "train coming" than be "stabbed in the back". I could always elaborate over a cup of tea as English is my 4th language
O.K. --- so now we know....it's the *language barrier* for the most part...I thought you were jst funnin'..... You make VERY valid points.... The 'train coming...' bit is *very* much vaild & understood, m8... It's only fair. After all, honesty is the best policy.. Fella, ya *could* have let us know from Jump Street....I *would* have understood...TRUST me on that, m8.. OpinionsCartoonStudios@Yahoo.Co.UK
:smt073 Russia - where are you you go girl!!! All communication with AnMDBCartoon is now unofficially through you