Racism and double standard of Archie comic books

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by JamalSpunky, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. chicity

    chicity New Member

    I think "preserving their family's history" would fall under "being a racist bitch", personally, lol. There's nothing about IR that interferes with maintaining your family history.

    Some of the reasons I've encountered with White Women who are dumb enough not to actively pursue relationships with Black Men:

    Proximity: this is the biggest one. In a huge percentage of places in the US where White Women live, there aren't that many Black Men. Even in diverse areas, people tend to self-segregate. So they aren't doing any of the things that lead to dating with Black Men. They aren't flirting with them or being flirted with by them. White guys are just more convenient.

    Luck: similar to proximity, sometimes a White Woman may have some opportunities for IR, but never with a guy who otherwise meets their normal relationship criteria, whatever it might be.

    Fear of the unknown: White people who are not used to spending time around Black people have a number of phobias. "Omygod, what if I say the wrong things someday?" There are also fears that a Black Man will be offended if they are approached -- the whole thing about White Women contributing to the genocide of Black people. Women fear rejection too, and being rejected by someone who thinks you've done something wrong by approaching them is worse. White Women who are used to being around Black people are also likely to have Black female friends, which leads to the fear of loosing those friendships if you date Black men. There are shallow fears stemming from stereotypes, like that he'll never like your cooking, or your body, or your dancing, or in some way you'll just never measure up. Finally there are the utterly moronic fears, like that you'll marry and have kids and then those kids will be mistreated. Hopefully the President of the United States has helped to reduce the number of Women afraid of that.

    Conformity: Lots and lots of people just don't want to be different, including White Women. Being in an IR with a Black Man as a White Woman automatically puts you a little outside the generic.

    Laziness: Being in a relationship with someone who may come from a different heritage than the other guys one has dated means having to adjust ones behavior. For Women who like to play mind games and run their relationships using the same old Cosmopolitan quizes they've been returning to since high school will find that the old moves produce different results -- or maybe they don't always, but they think that they will.


    And then there are White Women who are just racist bitches, which I referenced earlier. Amongst these Women, you will find those that don't want to see IR love onscreen. However, even amongst this group, you will find some that do. I do not believe that the majority of White Women fit into the racist category. Some may disagree, but that has not been my experience. Most White Women I have encountered are open to IR in theory, but never find an opportunity for IR that meets their other criteria for a relationship, as explained above.


    That said, all of the above women are morons who'd be much happier if they just womaned-up and sought out a Tall Dark & Handsome Man to marry. :)
     
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member


    And I find many women have higher standards for dating outside of their race too. I guess the idea is if I gotta deal with the social stigma a comfortable life better be part of the package. Like you won't see a woman dating out of her race for a bag boy at shop rite.
     
  3. chicity

    chicity New Member

    As a matter of fact, I know of two White Women dating Black Men who work at Sav A Lot.

    I know there's this theory that White Women raise their standards for IR, but I've only heard of it, like I hear of other stereotypes. I've never seen it in practice, and indeed every White Woman I know who dates IR tends to date Black Men who are similar in station to the White Men they have dated previously.


    A White Woman who requires more out of IR coupling than she does out of monoracial is amongst the Racist Bitch group. The reality is that most racists don't date IR at all. Amongst Women who do date interracially, they don't usually apply racism to their dating choices.

    It seems to me that this particular stereotype is based on the idea that there is a group of White Women who are a "little bit racist" -- not enough not to date IR, but just enough to require more out of Black Men. It doesn't generally work like that. You're usually racist enough to not bother with IR, or not racist about IR at all.

    I tend to think that if this oh-so-popular stereotype of the higher standards for IR White Women was real, we would be able to find at least one such Woman on this board. But last I checked, there's not a Woman here who holds Black Men to any stricter standards than they do White Men.
     
  4. Espy

    Espy New Member

    I can't imagine thinking like that Andrae, it's just not for me. I don't see the social stigma, nor would I expect anyone else to provide a comfortable life. But that's just me.
     
  5. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Again youre an exception babe. also it might be a youth thing abd a huge part of youth is thinking about the future and not living in the now. so alot of things are based on how things might be not how they are. btw i smelt your perfume today and i think im a little more smitten with you today than i was yesterday vzl
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I think a lot of men would back me up on this one because I've seen really beautiful ww with wack wm and you know they'd never talk a bm of the same caliber.
     
  7. Espy

    Espy New Member

    LOL at you and the perfume, but I think it really does smell heavenly on.

    But back to the topic, it could be a youth based thing. Often times people become more secure in themselves and their lives as they get older, and so I can see how that would lend itself to a more open attitude about a lot of things. However in my case I had the same attitude in my youth as I have now, the only major changes I think are that I'm more mellow and I'm not as easy to piss off. Aggression and temper are two things I've learned to mute as I've gotten older, though I started to realize the need for that in my late teens. I also used to see things as more black and white, now I deal primarily in myriad shades of gray. Underlying beliefs and personality traits though are much as they were when I was younger. I suspect in my case it was how I was brought up that made the difference. If my grandfather ever heard me say something like 'I need a man to provide for me', or 'I can't date him because he's black', that would have been an automatic trip to the barn for a lashing.
     
  8. chicity

    chicity New Member

    See, here's the problem.

    Why would Men know why Women are choosing their mates?

    You are making an assumption. You even say "You know they'd never..." How do you know? Why do you know?

    You don't know. You're guessing.

    LA asked me directly what reasons White Women had for not dating Black Men, from my own experience as a White Woman. I listed them based upon girl talk discussions I've had with other White Women since I was a little girl in a sleeping bag with my friends in the living room.

    You responded by making suggestions about other motivations White Women might have, based entirely upon your own biases about White Women. You have no evidence that the White Women dating wack White Men would not date wack Black Men, or if they would ever even date Black Men at all. You're just assuming. And you're presenting those assumptions as evidence against someone's real life experiences.
     
  9. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Gotta agree with Chi on this Andrae. You never know who someone will be attracted to, and for some it has nothing to do with the physical, while with others it has nothing to do with personality. So you could easily have a pretty WW with a BM that you would view as out of her league for whatever reason.
     
  10. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    Just pitiful, can't believe so many black men are self defeatists. You talk about reality? No, just stereotypes without knowing what the white women think of you personally. So many black men just chicken and coward out and never know what could have happened. You give white men too much credit. This is just like a couple years ago when a poster (BW posing as a BM) said that the WM gets all the finest sistas and BM get the fat/ugly WM's leftovers. Many of those negroes jumped on and agreed. Problem is many BM use Walmart to judge BM/WW relationships.

    Same here, many just don't have the balls to step up to a white cutie and say what's up out of fear that "she only dates WM" or "her family will disapprove", "family legacy", etc.

    ChiCity, I disagree with you on the Illegals issue(too liberal for my tastes), but you are on point here.

    No disrespect to any of the men here, but that's what's going on.
     
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Ok I guess I can only go off my experiences. Here in NY women in general women tend to date profeesional men but when normally when you see a woman dating below her station the guy is usually of the same race. I will admit that amongst my own friends black white or whatever they commonly talk about the men they will date and when they talk about dating someone out of their race its always someone above their station.
     
  12. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Don't take this the wrong way babe, but maybe you need more open-minded friends.
     
  13. wtarshi

    wtarshi Well-Known Member

    just what i was thinking as well espy. it appears too many people are focusing on monetary wealth and status and not about what really matters.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    In my defense I'm 29 guys I'm sure it changes later in life.
     
  15. chicity

    chicity New Member

    Youth really isn't an excuse for the type of behavior you describe in the Women you know.
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member


    I think some people just need a little time to see what's important
     
  17. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    For you, that's getting a job that pays six figures a year and driving a Benz.
     
  18. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Yeah right now but much of that is at least five years away if ever especially in this economy. But I know I want to live well and it cost money to do so.
     
  19. AnMDBCartoon

    AnMDBCartoon New Member

    It's a dirty job, m8, but SOMEBODY'S gotta do it, eh?:mrgreen:





















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  20. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Unfortunately babe it doesn't for some people. There are those who have specific goals and once those are achieved, they're done. But there are also quite a few people for whom enough will never be enough. For some reason some people equate happiness with stuff, and since that doesn't work, no matter how much stuff they acquire they still aren't happy, therefore leading them to seek even more stuff... it's a never ending circle. Not saying you're like that, I think you've got a level head on your shoulders and a good moral compass, but it's a lesson an awful lot of people just never learn. The only place you'll find happiness is from within, if you're looking anywhere else you're going to come up wanting.
     

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