America sooo fat it has become a national security risk

CNN reported that 27% of the military sign ups or rejected because of being over weight. they are asking the schools and the rest of america to eat healthy so they can get more people in the military.


WOW america sucks. the enemy dont need Nuke just gives a pork chop and some ribs and gives us time .

 

Damn, that sucks for those who want to join.


Hell, my friend said he wants to join the military, because he "wants to become a sniper". He makes it sound like it's just pick up a gun and shoot from a secluded location, and he's done his service. He weighs 275, and is obese, so I guess he'll be shit outta luck when he goes to join.

Link?

 

I'm betting, although I haven't read the stats, these folks were intelligence level Cat IV's. The army's pretty desperate, so if your friend is as bright as you are and only what I think would be Class I or low II obesity, he'll be fine.

 

Don't know what class of obesity he's in, but he's way over the line. My Other friend's used to call him Mo(Morbidly Obese), back when he weighed 330. Of course, he claims to weigh 275. Not sure if it's true, though.

 

The lack of knowledge people have about nutrition is alarming. They sell "low fat" everything when calories are what make you fat.

 

Shamelessly copypasted:

BMI Classification
< 18.5 underweight
18.5–24.9 normal weight
25.0–29.9 overweight
30.0–34.9 class I obesity
35.0–39.9 class II obesity
? 40.0 class III obesity

Generally, 100 lbs. overweight is the marker for morbid obesity, or II. Sounds like he's probably just morbidly obese.

LOL @ living in a time when I say "just" morbidly obese.

 

Calories *are* what makes us fat, bria86, but it's what makes up those calories that really concerns me.

I think that's part of the reason why there's such a push to eat organic and locally grown foods. People are starting to realize that the food we're eating, in general, is one of the biggest causes of obesity. We don't really know what's in our food, but a lot of it is engineered to taste the same and have the 'correct' mix of fat, salt, and sweet to keep us coming back for more. A lot of the stuff they use to genetically engineer that food mimics hormones in our bodies and they're just now starting to find out how that impacts us.

I work in breast cancer, so I hear a lot about hormones in things- soy in particular. That's one nasty little bean that I just don't have patience for anymore. I avoid soy when I can, eat as much local and organic food as I can, and watch what I put into my body.

National security though, I think, is taking it a little far. I know that the military exceeded their recruitment goals more than once in the last year...but a LOT, so they aren't that worried. Although, today's kids are the first ones in a long time that are in danger of not living as long as their parents because of the junk they're eating, or because of a variety of medical problems that we may or may not discover is due to the hormones and additives in the food.

And LOL at Bonsaiikitten.

 

Completely off-topic, but, Grl, what do you make of the Japanese consuming high levels of soy with relatively low incidence of breast cancer? Coincidental?

 

Actually, from the studies I've come across, Japanese do not consume the astronomically high levels of soy we've come to believe. On average, the soy consumption is around 2 TBL per day, and it's largely condiments.

Also, most Asian cultures according to my research didn't eat soy until relatively recently. It was considered forbidden, and not fit for human consumption. I can't remember how or why that changed right now, but I found that very interesting. I think they just needed the food source at one point.

Now, while they may have lower incidents of breast cancer, they do not have lower cancer levels overall. Thyroid, prostate, and a few other cancers are through the roof. Why breast cancer is lower, they're still exploring. Preliminary research seems to be showing it's HOW the soy is used and what it's mixed with that prevents it from becoming the super-estrogen supplement that we're seeing in this country (which is why if you have estrogen receptor positive breast cancer, they tell you to stay as far away from soy products as you can get!), but another study I read was from Japan saying how unhealthy soy actually is, so I'm not sure.

...if I can find the links to these studies, I'll post them. They're on my work computer, and I'm off today, so I'll try to remember when I go in tomorrow.

 

arent the japanese diet consist of mostly seafood and veggies whereas we are meat eaters and especially pork and crazy stuff like junk food

 

Well, every culture has junk food. It's how that food is prepared (and grown) that makes the difference.

The USDA allows genetically modified foods in general consumption- I can't speak to the standards in other countries because I don't know- but I do know about the USA. There are a lot of things we allow. Now, they're finding that these genetically modified foods, especially the 'junk foods' have addictive properties in them that would explain the increasing obesity epidemic.

There was a study done in which they shocked rats who were obese and had been fed with food that was modified to make the rats feel somewhere near the way humans felt when eating modified foods. Those rats, even while being shocked, continued to eat! The regular rats didn't. They stopped.

Really, I think there's more to this picture than just saying 'Stop eating and exercise'.

 

seems you have something with pork first the fat of the pork is not the worse
now if you eat this a lot and not just one one when you sit down and eat yes will end up bad like everything else


anyway what i think is everything is good to eat all are good for something the problem start when you have too much of something ..

many say don't have sugar nooo salt no this

but all good just like i said above too much not good

 

Grl, my mom has been anti-soy for many years. She's always expressed her concern for people and provided them with knowledge of why it's bad and people and they have written her off. It's nice to see that she's not alone in this.

I have been a Vegetarian for 11 years, so I have eaten soy for several years in that time. I have found a brand of products that are soy and meat-free. Sometimes if I'm out or want something that the brand doesn't make, I'll have something soy.

 

I'd rep ya if I could, but I can't. Do you think fermented soy is perhaps different then?

 

I know you're asking Grl, but I know from my knowledge, soy like soy sauce is okay.

 

Thank you.

 

No problem....

 

if you switch to organic foods, or whatever you STILL have to know what you're putting into your body. most people don't read or care about what's on the labels of the foods they buy. It's better to go on actual knowledge rather than consuming something on blind faith that someone else (the govt. for example) says is good for you.

Another thing is that most people do not know just how many calories to consume to maintain their ideal bodyweight, how many calories create an excess/deficit. It's why so many diets fail.

 

Supposedly, it's fine...but like I said earlier, from what I've been able to gather, it's the way Asian cultures eat that makes the difference in how the soy is processed in the body.

Either way though, a splash of soy sauce isn't enough to really register on the radar, so I don't think you'd have to worry in the long run.

 

that makes sense to me.. i personally eat seafood and veggies on a regular basis.