Folks We'd Like To Remove From Black History.

There are a lot of other positive rappers look at Nas, Jay Z, Jadakiss, T.I., Luda. Just cause they sell with exception of Jada doesn't mean they don't kick serios knowledge. Check out Nas's joint Nigga(incredible track) as well as Jada's Why. I can list a lot of tracks but y'all get the point. It's just unfortunate that southern rap has taken over and it's just a bunch of drivel. No content just the same beat with the same kick and the same snare. I forgot to list Eminem as well.

 

Yeah, there are some rappers in the mainstream who are good, and don't pop off bullshit, but that ratio is like 1:25. I'm not gonna blame the south for everything, though, because all coasts are putting out wack shit. Some people are from the East Coast and West Coast and put out southern sounding shit, so I'm not gonna blame the south like I used to.

The east wants to be the south, it seems("Lip Gloss", "This is Why I'm Hot"), the west complains about not getting respect and "bringin' back the west", but they put out the same shit mufuckas were puttin' out in 95, and haven't evolved.


Em is raw. Me and my friends will sit in the garage bumpin' Em for days. Relapse was fucking sick. He's a favorite among my group. I get down on some Nas, and a little Luda, as well.

I'm waintg for a hip-hop "revolution", where people just get sick of the bullshit, and reform hip-hop to the days of block parties, and b-boy circles in the 70s and 80s. One can dream.

I can sum up most of the hip-hop coming out within' the past 10 years with this quote, "If you go platinum, it's got nothing to do with luck. It just means that a million people are stupid as fuck". While every once in a while a worthy record may go platinum, for the most part, record sales don't mean much in quality anymore, these days.

 

I see that a lot of you have expressed your concern about the need for the need of African American culture to be taught but I keep thinking do we retain any of the information we learned from history period. I do agree thug culture has become too dominate but it makes too much for young kids to ignore it. You can't blame them for going where the money is. Isn't that what we all do.

 

Sometimes, I don't know what to blame, the flood of fake thugs being glorified today, or the impressionable kids that worship them. Either way, shit's gotta change.

Eddie Griffin said at one of his shows "black people, we broke. And we need some fixin'." I hella agree with him.

 

People in general are flawed. Our flaws are focused on more. Not enough focus on the things that matter.

 

Haha you wasn't even around in the 70s and 80s

 

Nope, but I've got more than enough 1st generation hip-hop on my hard drive to want hip-hop to go back to the days of Afrika Bambaataa and The Treacherous Three, when it was all about rockin' the crowd, and not fighting at the Source awards or some shit. Of course, I'm sure shit went down at block parties, too, but fuck.... :smt029

What happened to 5 man crews, where each rapper was good, and they had those corny little dance routines like they were The stylistics or some shit. :smt089

 

I have to give it to you. A lot of youngins don't care about this stuff. They only want to focus on the modern-day vaudeville acts. Much respect for knowing the old-school stuff.

 

True, true. Wish everything could just be fixed.

 

I would consider the early 90s to early 2000s the hay day of hip hop.

 

i don't think because on one or two tracks an artist decides to reflect on social politics you can classify them as a positive rapper. with the exception of nas, none of those listed above should be considered "positive" rappers. :smt017

 

They are to me kid because they're well rounded. Talking about problems track after track doesn't make you deep it makes you depressing. If Jay-Z Em and Nas aren't the best in the game then who is?

 

Take the good with the bad, and most people have a bit of both, you only need to look at notable "White folks" in history to see that.

 

i won't even get into the "best in the game" discussion. i'll save that for another thread. lol and i don't knock you for liking those artists. so if it's because you think they are well rounded, that's fine. but that still doesn't make them positive rappers. i listen to a lot of ugk, and pimp & bun make a lot of comment on social politics and drop knowledge... but come on, i wouldn't dare call them positive rappers.

 

Lol. What part of the country are you from. Is it because they also talk about chains and shit like that

 

i don't see how a rapper could be called "positive" when he talks about selling drugs and running through women. not to say that a "positive" person can't have vices and stuff. (i would like to consider myself a "positive" person, but i am far from perfect) but in general when the term "positive rapper" is used, it is not labelled on someone who talks about violence against others, and taking advantage of their own community. know what i mean?

 

Jay Z for example has done far more for his neighborhood and other African Americans nation more so than that whole other list combined. Even if their life experiences include drugs and "running through women" so what? It's far from all they talk about and what good is to make records if they won't sell. A balance of hood tracks, party tracks, and positive tracks is a good thing. I've gotten way more from Jada than Ive ever gotten from Talib Kwali.

 

well now you're discussing efforts off of the record. (literally) i was strictly talking about the music. but it's cool.

and i agree, i get way more from jada's music on many levels than i would from kweli. i don't even bother to listen to kweli.

 

This is just the kind of shit I'm talking about. Now it's a "best in the game" beef. We started out talking about Black History. Hip-Hop and real life don't mix.

 

wow, what are you looking at? lol it was clearly stated that we would not do the "best in the game" in this thread.