Are Black Men Really Cared About By Black Women?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Celo3k, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. Celo3k

    Celo3k New Member

    Hello I'm Celo3k and new to the forum. Well kinda new. Last time I was here was over 8 years ago, but it seems sometimes that the Black Community doesn't care for us Black Men, the same as they say whites don't. I've paid close attention to this for years now.

    If a BM doesn't live up to some so-called pride in his race (which he does have) he's bashed and criticized for it and called a sell-out, coon, etc, if he's not apart of the 'black in crowd'. And most of these BM are cool and keep to themselves like Taye Diggs and many other black men. They bother no one.

    For example; a BW can curse, act a fool and be wrong on many levels, but no one corrects her, even on talk shows like 'Tyra'. She's called a Strong Black Woman. And would openly say I can't kind a good BM cause his either gay, in jail or dating a women from another race. But then turn right around and say yeah I dated IR before. LOL. But if BM stand up and say BW need to get their acts together, we're wrong, very wrong. It's like they have this privilege that we can't have.

    You also have these Manginas and other black men that support these women's ignorance and hate. They call them Real Black Men, but aren't Real Black Men suppsoe to stand against that foolishness to bring the race together? I would hope so.

    In some situations I've seen BM, including myself, speak to a BW, some would just rolls their eyes, get an attitude, like I was trying to flirt with them, as if I have no right too (that's something we would expect a racist to do towards us, but not our own)

    And when it comes to IR dating, they'll bash BM for dating other races, but when the time comes they'd date a WM or another race too, as if it's okay for them too. 'WM take care of their women", they say. It's like they're putting WM on a pedestal, but BM were to say the same about non-black women, they'd have a heart attack. Sometimes it's like we're their property, even if they don't want some of us. It's like they're saying "I don't want you, but still dont' date that white girl". Can't win.

    Some of them are very confusing and will drive a BM crazy. BW are so quick to bash us BM like we're nobodies, like the world is theirs, not ours. So what are your thoughts on this?
     
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  2. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    as long as your mother still loves you then i wouldn't worry about the rest:cool:
     
  3. Celo3k

    Celo3k New Member

    Thanks, yes my grandmother.
     
  4. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

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    This might be kind of a long thread...
     
  5. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    I think we're talking too much about BW and not enough about the WW that we love :smt049
     
  6. Celo3k

    Celo3k New Member

    Yes we should ,but wondered if some BM thought the same on these important issues that effect us, as BM.
     
  7. NCBradin

    NCBradin New Member

    :smt081 How indeed, my friend!
     
  8. Tony Soprano

    Tony Soprano Moderator

    I was raised by two black women whom I still love very much. There's always an exception to every rule.
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Black women love to hate us lol. Jk
    I think women love men and men love women race need not apply.
     
  10. Espy

    Espy New Member

    I'll be giving you rep for that as soon as I'm able Andrae. :smt058
     
  11. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

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  12. KimboSlice

    KimboSlice New Member

    I'm not about to get into a discussion with you about bw on a wwbm board.
     
  13. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    Well, this is Black History Month, and...
     
  14. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    I notice every thread bitching about black women is a complete generalization of them. But I didn't read the opening post to see if he was generalizing.
     
  15. xoxo

    xoxo Well-Known Member

    I was going to go for the bait, this comment stopped me.
     
  16. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    My thoughts are....you hit the nail on the head.

    BM can't criticize BW at all...period...even on this site..lol
     
  17. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    That sounds good but..all to often...black moms are the worst IR hypocrites.

    They tell their sons "Don't you bring home no stringy haired white bitch"

    But

    They NEVER tell their daughters not to bring home a stringy haired white boy.

    Black family reuinions is the best place to see this hypocrisy at work.
     
  18. Celo3k

    Celo3k New Member

    Yes Flaminghetero I see that too. Someone said I was generalizing and bitching about BW, but I was clearly standing up for BM on an important issue to think about being cared for by our community and some discrimination we face, but seems like I only got negative responses (which I don't understand) and that's VERY disappointing especially on this site of all places. People can't open their eyes to see my post was about BM's importance.

    Where's the intellectual feedback?

    Time to really become free WW and BM. Just pitiful. :confused:
     
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  19. Espy

    Espy New Member

    Personally I don't criticize people based upon other people's experiences, and I have never known any black women who fit your description, therefore I'm not qualified to comment. I'm not saying no black women fit your descriptions, I'm just saying I don't know any.

    Pretty much anytime you use a term and don't quantify it with 'some' or 'most', you're going to get accused of generalizing as people tend to read that as you meaning 'all'. There is always an exception and if you happen to be that exception, or if you know an exception, it's likely you'll feel the need to point that out. Don't take it personally, it's people stating their opinions just as you stated yours

    Edit: One last thing. A lot of BM's mothers are BW. Some of them obviously did a great job raising their boys, based upon the character of most of the men here. So to imply that most BW are as you described isn't likely to garner full support from the BM or the WW.
     
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  20. Celo3k

    Celo3k New Member

    Well I still didn't generalizing anyone. Just expected more from people who should be WW and BM.
     

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