Pick-up artists/Seduction Gurus

Lol, some guy said this to me a couple of weeks ago. I was like "ooooh, god that's an old one... haven't ya got something a little more original?"

Right now the popular pick-up line is the whole "Are you a model?"... sooo lame.

Pick-up lines just make me cringe, like you said the best thing to say is hello or start a normal conversation.

 

Exactly...just be natural

 

I think all the guys, the PUA's are white and have a white mindset. A white man knows he can walk into any in club and he pretty much knows that there isn't one woman in the whole place that would not F**K a white man. A black man does not have that same choice, there are even many non-black woman out there that maybe into a black guy, but they just wouldn't go there out of respect for there men. Don't get me wrong I love black woman to, but I'm just being real.

So them skills that PUA teach there students are a bit wack and only apply to white guys. A black guy couldn't get away with that negging they say to do to women you know all that "My mom has a dress like that at home" but if your a white guy and you still can't laid, then dude you have a serious problem. As a black man we have to go through so mamy pre-concived ideas about us, it's beyond a joke, but we still get through all the hurdles and still get women. Black men are the true players of the game.

 

That's complete crap. We're not all that f-ing easy.

 

LOL

but when a white guys goes to a spot where white women are dating black guys....... u should see the faces it is awsome

 

Pickup Artist

The PUA stuff is a gimic. If you need magic tricks and silly deception to get with a chick then this means you will have to continue the deception to hang on to her...it's garbage guys.

It's pretty easy to pick up hot chicks if you're a half way decent looking guy with a camera crew following your every move...it LA...come'on. Plus, the women this guy picks up has to sign a release to have their faces viewed on camera.

 

The PUA and Tough love shows are joke. I can easily teach that BS in my deep sleep. Total utter 80's BS.

Pick up artist my foot. If Mystery (Erik von Markovik) was a minority with his cheesy ass game, the only thing he would pick up in a night club full of beautiful women would be his nose.

 

Agreed.

 

I agree with you because it seems as though he saying ww are easy which is far from the truth.

most bm believe ww are more dedicated to the relationship than bw ( im not saying bw are not dedicated but ww SEEM to be more dedicated) .

but when a bm go into a club we have to have it in mind that we understand there is preconceived ideas about us so we have to verbally express ourselves in manner that would be acceptable to any woman but especially when you go into a predominately white club. unfortunately that is POSSIBLY going on.

 

I agree mystery is a joke. I skimmed thru his book and it is a piece of crap. he is drawing diagrams like he is john madden drawing a football play. he is also telling people to wear a center piece ( some type of item for conversation). WTF.

pick up lines are terrible. there is nothing wrong with scripted convo but pick up lines are horrible.

every smart man knows 2 things that will get you close to a woman.

1) confidence - dont tell a women she is beautiful when you first meet her. the fact that you aprroached her will let her know she is attractive thus no need to say it. also it shows lack of confidence and conversation skills.....
2) decent convo. guide the convo dont dominate. other words ask open ended questions and asked creative questions.

the best pick up line i have to break the ice is as follows ( depends on the situation and place. in this instance it is a store) :

excuse me but i saw you earlier and i just had to come by and meet you. i mean i really enjoyed the way you carried yourself. what is your name ?

enough said . it compliments without brown nosing and you being polite. you must say it with confidence. like you saying it in a barry whites/marvin gayes/robert deniro mindset. IE romantically, sexually and gangster all at the same time. oh dont forget the sexy face.



Please be aware I have my lack of confidence at times and become speechless at times but if you are aware of these things it is half the battle.

 

LOL

well I got picked up one time with the a very stupid thing, but the situation made it up.

I was in a club and just got me a very large beer.
I took the beer and wanted to go away from the bar and run into a cute young guy. He looked totaly puzzeld like he was already thinking all the time what to say and then he asked me to buy me a beer ( me having that realy large beer in the hand) I started laugthing and we started talking. We had a good time and where togher for a year. :smt050

 

I have to respectfully disagree with you here. No one should play to the crowd, just be yourself. If they don't like you as you are, they aren't worth your time.

I personally would never avoid someone because of how they spoke, or dressed, or what they drove, or where they lived, or what type of job they had, or what color their skin happened to be. People who do that are generally looking for people who fit their ideal of the 'perfect mate', which IMO is complete rubbish. If you allow yourself to be limited by your own preconceived notions, you eliminate a large number of people who may actually be perfect for you. Sometimes you don't actually know what you want until you find someone who fills needs you didn't even realize you had. Approach life and everything in it with an open mind, I guarantee you that you'll be happier than the people who don't.

 

very good point

 

Espy you give way too much credit to other women. Just because you're enlightened enough to know that the right person for you tends to be someone you might have never considered most people don't. We live in a terribly superficial throw away culture. Too many of us only appreciate the physical and material qualities a person has to offer especially in a meat market like a club. As a girl I'm sure you can't understand this but it's pure competition to get the attention of a person you want. People don't want to get know you unless you meet the superficial needs first.

 

Could not have said it better!

 

I completely get that Andrae, but it doesn't make it right. I realize I may be in the minority on this, but I don't believe in holding people to any minimum criteria that must be met before I would consider them date worthy. Okay that's not entirely true, they must be human and male, oh and a non-smoker, but that's it.

 

Lol

 

I think you're wrong. I think it depends on the woman. I don't look at a dude that compliments me as not having any confidence. I also think some men feel that they're gassing her head/big upping the woman too much if they DO compliment her.

If a dude tells me I'm beautiful and I think he's attractive, I'd feel very honored he said it, although I don't always believe guys when they compliment me.

I think being yourself is key. You can only attract what you naturally attract. That can be from your looks, your personality, your body, your sense of style and what-have-you. If someone is attracted to you, they will do what they need to - to attract you. Then if someone wants to attract people to them, they too will need to do what they need to do to put out signals that they're open to attracting people. I know this is easier said than done, but it's the way pheromones and natural human attraction works.

 

So Espy, you mean to tell me your criteria for dating is, just be a non-smoker male? C'mon, in that case, you'll have the whole BM from Tulsa lining up at your front lawn.