Do you believe in divorce?

I absolutely am. But that's a whole other topic.

 

I meant that it would be easier to stay married and not get divorced if we

were brought up in an environment that encouraged that.

Those people using Christianity to justify hatred are not practicing are

religion or at least what Jesus instructed us, which is to

Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven (Luke 6:37).

 

If everyone in society practiced Christianity husbands will not behave in

that manner to their wives, for the Apostle Paul instructed husbands

saying

So husband ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself (Ephesians 5:25).

And so you may have heard psychologists say that men who beat their

wives do so because they hate themselves. How they feel about

themselves is what they project unto their spouses. Also, men wouldn’t

molest their children since they will be disobeying Christ’s teachings in

this scripture,

But whoever causes one of these little ones (children) who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea (Matthew 18:6).

To cause a child to sin would include having sex with one’s own child since

that would be engaging in incestuous relations that’s prohibited, such as

sleeping with one owns auntie or uncle, which is condemned in this

scripture

None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his nakedness (Leviticus 18:6).

 

hmmmm....shouldn't some of those priests who took gods word take note? obviously another conversation all together. but i do take an offence to having a bible quoted to me when the men who are supposed to live by it go against it in every way

 

Tarshibear, can you please delete the message in which you quoted the bible reference that I included in my message, because I somehow managed to reference the quotes wrongly, if you look at my edited version you see the diffrences in the Chapters and verses that I referenced.

 

People will always use religion (Christianity and others) to justify their hatred towards others.

It's happened for millenia and will continue to happen.

Religion was invented to keep people in line as civilizations grew. That was the only way that Pharoahs, et al could make sure that their populations remained loyal subjects. Religions grew and changed from ancient cultures.

The Bible was written by humans. It was designed to keep women inferior to their male counterparts because that was how society was when the Bible was written.

Let's keep the Scripture out of this discussion....

 

I feel what you're saying, but like with the whole "love conquers all" thing, it's easier said than done for everyone to practice religion in the correct way. I could say, "if people would just stop and take the time to better themselves as people and eliminate their hatred, everything would be fine." But once again, easier said than done.

 

If you were married to me you wouldn't feel oppressed

 

In a perfect world all Christians would actually behave accordingly to their religion, marriages would last forever, murder and sexual crimes nonexistent, debates fair and civil, war impossible, violence a thing of imagination...


But last I checked this world is far from perfect.


Love is powerful, yes. But in a marriage it is dependent upon the feelings and actions from both parties. If there is pain and suffering inflicted upon one party by their spouse, it is no longer a marriage. At that point it becomes a hell on Earth, and if it takes exchanging a worldly one for one after death I don't see a damn thing wrong with it.

But that's reliant upon the truth behind the religion, isn't it? Perhaps it's right, perhaps it's not. I'd rather take my chances and have a full and happy life than ever go back to the hell I endured. I got a divorce at 22 and it was the best decision I ever made. My divorce saved lives, because lives that would have been full of pain were not created. My divorce saved my life, because if he hadn't killed me at some point I probably would've done him the favor of doing it myself.

And who's to say what the "right" and "wrong" reasons for marrying or divorcing are anyhow? I don't need bible quotes thrown at me, though to point out the fact that often, as referenced in the bible, fathers GAVE their daughters to men, without their consent, to be married, would probably be glanced over instead of taken to heart. If your dad sells you to someone for marriage, is that a "right" reason? Wasn't too long ago it was a socially accepted one, and still is in many cultures.

Every opinion is subjective and dependent upon perspective. Right and wrong change depending on who is speaking. Judgment is something none of us have the right to decide.

 

DH for the win!!!!

Too bad there will never be a perfect world. There are Christians(as well as other religious folk) out there who will practice their religion when it doesn't inconvenience them. How many apply everything from the bible into everyday life.

It never meant anything to me as a kid when I was taught about the bible, but now when I hear the quote "women must submit to their husbands", I say "Fuck that and anyone down with it".

 

I seriously wanna cryo myself until BA catches up with me in age and marry him!!!!!
:smt054:smt081:smt054

 

Nobody goes into a marraige thinking, "Gee, I will get divorced in 5, 10, 20 years etc". But A. People do fall out of love B. Shit happens C. Nobody should be miserible for the rest of their frickin life.

 

Great post! Rep added!

 

Divorce isn't something you 'believe' in. Sometimes it's necessary.
Although I do believe that too many people go into marriage now thinking 'well, if it doesn't work out, we can just get a divorce!' which is the absolutely wrong way to think about something that should be for life.
People getting married at 19, 20? Foolish. People getting married after knowing one another for six months? Very foolish. You need to know someone before marrying them in my opinion, and you need to ask yourself 'can I see myself with them in five years time? ten, twenty, thirty?'
If there's even a little bit of doubt (and I don't mean cold feet the night before the wedding), then don't do it. If even one tiny part of you is thinking 'well there's always divorce!' then it isn't right, in my opinion.

Of course you can know someone for twenty years and still not know them. People change. Love changes. Selfishness changes people.
How can you conquer everything? What if after ten years you realise that your partner is a bit of a Tiger Woods and has fanny in every area code? What if your man is beating on you every night, can love conquer that?
Sometimes divorce is necessary but too many people now of every generation treat marriage with very little respect.

Although I can't guarantee that when/if I get married it will be forever, I can guarantee that I won't get married unless I can honestly see myself as an old and wrinkly fig with that person.

 

Very well said! :smt023

This is all very true.

 

So young, yet so much wisdom! Rep added:smt023

 

Just be a Moonie and get married by unification church of Reverend Sun Myung Moon, you will never get divorce. LoL