Brothers: I have a couple of questions for you

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Inner Beauty, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    Black Men: I have a couple of questions for you

    I was reading some comments on a gossip blog regarding the Tiger Woods scandal. One commenter in particular was responding to another commenter about how he was with a Jewish girl who treated him well and he loved it, but he felt he was missing the sisters.

    Out of curiosity, do you ever feel like that?

    Then also, he stated how WW could never understand the Black struggle, so he might consider Latinas and feel he belongs with BW.

    Regarding this question, do you place emphasis on that a WW can't understand you etc.?
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2009
  2. 1) I really wish all WW were like Jewish girls;

    2) I think there's a fundamental disconnect in that no white person, not just WW, can know what it is to be raised in a country where most of the people are a different colour, and they will never know quite how it feels, growing up.

    Sort of like when a girl asks me to walk with her through the car park, I initially look at her thinking it's a come-on, or she's lonely or something, she then explains, "I'm not 6'0" and 243Ibs", at which point the penny drops. We just don't think that way, and I can NOT feel the way she does when walking across the car park alone.
     
  3. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    it would not appear that tiger has ANY interest in the sistas...certainly NOT missing them...his wife is white and all the women coming forward that he had affairs with are white as well...

    i sincerely doubt that a person "misses" a race...lippy would never say...i miss white men...now what i may say is...hmmm that particular white man appeals to me...has caught my eye...made me step back and consider...but the whole damn race of them...hell no...clearly i have a preference:smt024
     
  4. Inner Beauty

    Inner Beauty New Member

    LOL...This isn't about Tiger. I was reading a topic regarding Tiger (although sad to read a lot of comments) and a commenter was talking about his friend dating WW. Then another one responded how he how dated one hence where I came up with the thread.

    Well, that's good you don't and it would be nice if others didn't as well, but some people who have dated IR, do miss their race. That was the case with this dude.


    HERE'S THE CONVO:

    (I'm copying and pasting. I edited some of it to take out their names and the N word)

    First dude: JUST THE OTHER DAY A BROTHA TOLD ME WHITE WOMEN TREAT HIM BETTER THAN BLK WOMEN ..AND THE BROTHA IS DOING HIS THING TOO ..I DONT AGREE BUT HE MAY BE RIGHT …THEY PASSIVE AND HUMBLE AND TAKE CARE OF A N-- NEEDS HE SAID …..

    Second dude: I know I’ma get in trouble but f*ck it… What ol’ boy said is true!!! The best girlfriend that I’ve ever had was white and she treated me VERY well even better than other Sistas that I was in LOVE with… SMH

    First dude: WHAT UP CUZIN, LMAO…I HEAR YOU BROTHAZ TELL ME THE WHITE WOMEN EXPERINCE ALL THE TIME …BUT I JUST LAUGH …NO MATTER HOW OUR SISTAZ TREAT US I LOVE THEY AZZ!

    Second dude: Fam, the ONLY problem we had was our religious differences – she was Jewish and I believed in our Lord & Risen Savior Jesus Christ of Nazareth… That was the one and ONLY time we got into an argument because you know Jews don’t believe in Jesus, etc… Other than that = NO PROBLEMS whatsoever, she treated a Brotha REALLY good and in return I treated her REALLY good as well… But I must admit I n--- STILL missed the Sistas… But anyways that was years ago…

    I remember when I got out of undergrad and first started working and was seeing & meeting all of these older & good Sistas in the office that mess was sad… I got to know some of them and they were all good women and it boggled my mind as to why the were single… And then I’d go to professional events and a n-- would be outnumbered and walk into these joints and the Sistas would be deep!!! Fam, I felt like a sheep walking into a wolves den…

    The numbers are in our favor and so I don’t think I’ll be messing with any other women but you NEVER know because A GOOD WOMAN is a GOOD WOMAN, however it’s the commonalities, similarities and shared experiences that I prefer in a Black & Black relationship = A n-- don’t gots to explain nothin’… Who knows though…

    Second dude responding to a chick:

    Chick: I thought you left after you’re “white girl treated me better” admission, LOL!

    Second dude:
    Sis, even though things were going great I STILL missed the Sistas = I can’t lie and deny that… Something was missing you know… There’s certain experiences that we have and go through that ONLY a person of color would understand because they lived it and go through it on a daily, you know…

    The thing is Now, I care too much about Black things to be concerned about another race’s issues, problems or concerns – I’m sorry but I’m NOT interested, there are TOO MANY issues that I have to address in my own community… I love Black People even though sometimes… SMH


    So my questions still stand...
     
  5. FRESH

    FRESH New Member


    I can only speak for myself, but I don't need another person next to me to confirm what I'm going through, I live it everyday, I know. I don't need a bw, let alone any other to justify any struggle that I may go through. I don't need a bw women to share my frustration when I get turned down from something, I think any women whom I date will know enough too be able to empathize/sympathize with my predicament. Will anyone understand a black man other than another black man or women? No, just as men fail to understand women.

    I could go on, but that's it in a nutshell...
     
  6. Sonny Dragon

    Sonny Dragon Well-Known Member

    Well race really isn't a big issue, its just sometime a certain woman has an edge over another gal, be it physical or her attitude towards her man and what she'd do for him.

    If you have a girl who made you pancakes after every time you had sex, and your with a girl who doesn't cook now, you'd might miss the chef. Just for her cooking.

    If you were with a girl with E-cup boobs, and your girl now has only a B-cup you'd miss the tits right?

    Well that's all I got.
     
  7. Lowrey

    Lowrey New Member

    you make the most sense in this thread

    but to me it's not about understanding, understanding a person of the same race is difficult enough.... it's about the effort and willingness to take on your man's problems and be the support he needs..whether she be black white green or blue
     
  8. Great cooking, or amazing tits....quite a dilemma.

    I'll take the Double-E cups. Cooking lessons are cheaper than implants. :)
     
  9. rpeg

    rpeg Member

    For me, I don't think it's important to be around people who experience the black struggle but rather its important to be around those who relate to a struggle in general; those who are influenced by it.

    I've met people of different creeds who understand and those who don't. Admittedly I don't relate as well to those with a silver spoon. It's increasingly not a black issue however. And increasingly it's not a colored issue. Many of us struggle no matter where we're from.
     
  10. chicity

    chicity New Member

    Beautifully said
     
  11. chicity

    chicity New Member

    When a woman loves a man, his struggles are paramount to her, and seeing him treated unfairly causes her pain.

    I know that in most cases in America, White people tend to downplay the struggles Black people face as a result of race. Most White people I meet seem unaware, either intentionally or unintentionally, of all of what being African American in the US means. Heck, how long ago was it that White people seemed unaware of the extent of racial profiling, and DWB?

    But if a woman is in love with you, she will not see the world merely through the perspective of her own life experiences, but through yours as well. She's not going to doubt you when you tell her about how the police officer, or the asshole at work, or the random stranger, treated you, and she's not going to doubt that it was racial if you tell her it was.

    If she does, if she still sees the world only through the perspective of her own background and experiences, then the problem isn't that she's White, the problem is that she simply isn't good enough for you, or simply isn't in love with you at all.

    Nor does dating a Black Woman ensure that she will support or understand what happens to you, if she doesn't care about you.

    Find a good woman who loves you. The rest isn't that important.
     
  12. FRESH

    FRESH New Member

    Although, You've written my entire thought, I knew what I wanted to say but just couldn't at the time. I'm glad someone else sees it how I do.
     
  13. scott1618

    scott1618 Active Member

    No, because I don't group people like that. There are decent white and black women and I don't group ww as just a test fling that i'll walk away from and "go back to the sisters" eventually. I don't give or take away points from any woman based on race alone. I always smirk when I hear people make comments like this.

    Trust me, there are some of those people that supposedly "understand your struggle" that will be the first to make your life worse and there are plenty of those people that supposedly can't understand you that will be the first to give you a helping hand. There is no question that when you are a minority that you will face more pressure and discrimination but what is most important is whether or not someone can understand you on a human and personal level. If two people can do that and there is mutual attraction then that is whats most important.
     
  14. Persephone

    Persephone New Member

    Exactly. Frankly, I believe one's life experiences are more due to socio-economic status than race. The problem lies in the fact that there are a disproportionate amount of minorities vs white people living in poverty.

    However, despite being as badly proportioned as an avid McDonald's customer, poverty holds members of every race. I think, in sheer numbers, there are actually more white people in poverty in this country, but the proportion of poverty vs well-off is much different than for other racial groups...

    Of course there are race specific struggles, but one will see a major decrease in those with an increase in capital. If you've got a whole shitload of money people treat you different than an average joe, regardless of what race you are. A poor black man is going to feel the sting of racism a lot more often than one with a mansion and a Benz.
     
  15. YZF R1

    YZF R1 New Member



    You said it.

    My WW, who never dated a BM before me, never experienced what it was like to be black in America. That is, of course, until she dated me. And we routinely got it from both sides; whites and blacks. We've had shity service at restaurants, had the glares from dumb fucking red-necks, and she's experienced me getting followed in a retail stores.

    She understands my struggle because to an extent, my struggle is now her struggle as well. If she didn't, I don't think I could be with her.
     
  16. BlackCohen

    BlackCohen Member

    I agree it is about class but blacks certainly have two issues to contend with (me three, poor, Jewish and black). Until ww see from the viewpoint of blacks (ie being in a relationship) it is very difficult to understand that there is and has been an issue for a long time. I guess the same can be said for religious beliefs and ideology but sometimes these differences are part of the attraction in a relationship.

    I like women in general but to be honest I would date only WW, Black or Latino. That is my choice and who I am attracted to, sorry if you do not fit into this category.
     
  17. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    dude you made the point I was going to make lol. It's best correlation between being a black guy and being woman in terms of shit we don't have to deal with or think about. But i don't even think black women can understand it that well. They might empathize better because they are exposed to black male troubles as a result of having brothers and fathers and husbands but the fear of our well being and physical safety in terms of racism. Racism more often tes than not doesn't just stop at bad treatment but can result in unsolicated incarciration or unjustified shootings.
     
  18. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    People only say that about BM.

    You never see anybody claim diana ross or venus williams misses the brothers.

    Nobody ever wonders if robert deniro or bill maher misses ww.
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2009
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Very true or you never hear anyone talk about Robert dinero or George Lucas missing white women. People seem to make it sound like fetishism when it's a black man and white woman. Like it's impossible for us to genuinely love one another.
     
  20. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    That garbage ironically comes from the two groups with the longest track record of IR hookups...BW and WM.

    They've been in bed together so long they even think alike.
     

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