I am so unsurprised that a man who berates a woman for her anger at a rapist by accusing her of misandry and class envy would also equate raping little girls with some romanticized notion of statutory rape. You sir, are a creepazoid. Spell that, motherfucker.
I couldn't have said it better!!! If it were my daughter, I would want him more than just in jail! A LOT MORE! :smt077 A child rapist will (in my eyes) NEVER have a redeeming quality to be found within him. Regardless of how many of his so-called great accomplishments, before, or after the fact of said atrocity. BTW, I don't advocate "a rape for a rape", but I do advocate, a castration, for a rape! Just my 0.2
Those 3 words in red are all that matter. Everything else is background noise. He must pay fully for what he did. End Of Story.
Jaybee, I’m still a little shocked that you went the personal attack and I do not want to get into a slinging match with you, I’m a little past all of that. What I would like to say though is that I have 2 friends who have been raped in the past and I have watched them suffer for years after because of the rapes. So yes, I get angry at people who rape, and at times (especially when the rape involves a child) there is a part of me that would like these people experience the fear, pain, helplessness and mental torture that they have inflicted on to their victims.
Well, certainly not as shocked as I was to see that a woman was urging a man be raped!! But, do you not see the inherent hypocrisy? You are validating the act of the crime as a punishment FOR the same crime. If you give that verdict, you then are just the same, for any moral intent and purpose, as the rapist. It just makes you a hypocrite. You want to punish a rapist, good, then you JAIL him. You want the jail time to feel worse, you cut the guys rations. You cut back his hour in the prison library to just 5 minutes. You want him to suffer, you remind him of what he is being deprived of. Otherwise, it's just an eye for an eye, then you start beating up people who beat up others, you start stabbing criminals in prison for knife crimes, just so they know how it 'feels' and that thinking is MUCH worse than anything discussed here - with the possible exceptions of the Spice Girl's threatened reunion, and cbq's juvenile, time-rich tantrums.
I'm a little surprised to see a christian shocked by the concept of an eye for an eye. I do believe the bible promoted that very thing. (Leviticus 24:19–21, Exodus 21:22–25, and Deuteronomy 19:21)
You're wasting your time Athena. He lives in London. Do they even HAVE any form of Capital Punishment? Meanwhile, we Yanks do believe in the death penalty, and I for sure am a proponent of it. Not trying to pick a fight with you jaybee, but to me it seems obvious, you my good man have been living in a bubble. And until someone you love, or yourself has been very atrociously victimized, then I guess that bubble is mighty comfy. Ignorance is bliss, as the saying goes.
Jaybee, as someone who appears to be educated, you're really stupid sometimes. What makes you feel so strongly about things you can't possibly understand? You're not a black American man (referring to the other thread) and you obviously aren't a woman, nor a rape victim. If you had been raped, or know someone first hand who has, then perhaps you could understand why someone would feel that a rapist deserves to be raped in return. Everyone here is entitled to their own opinion. You're attacking people for that, and acting as if you have some all encompassing power of the message board. Are you god? Last I checked, you really don't even belong here. Chill the fuck out. Edit: I debated on mentioning this, but I realized I really don't care, so I'll share. From MY experience as a woman who HAS been raped, as a child even younger than the one in this case...YES, I am glad he is in prison. YES, I hope his cellmate sodomizes him every fucking day, because no amount of pain he may receive will EVER make up for what he took from me, and other children. I live with that shit every day of my life, and I always will. The person in question has ruined so many lives I personally feel the world would be better if he were dead, because one day he'll get out of jail, and I'm fairly certain he'll go back to his old habits. I doubt the woman who was victimized by Polanski has had as full and happy life as she could have had if she had never met him. I don't care how old he is, he deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life, and any pains he may endure while incarcerated are his due.
Sorry to hear that happened D.H. But don't expect much sympathy from bruh man. Remember: Cast Not Your Pearls Amongst Swine...
To the lovely lady who gave me rep, who I shall not name for privacy reasons: I simply believe that fear is too powerful a thing to allow myself to get wrapped up in it...so I try my best to not let it take over me. I think the only reason women get scared of discussing these sorts of things is because of the judgment, and the terrible shame that occurs from sexual violence. I don't think we should be ashamed, because there's absolutely nothing wrong with us. There is something -very- wrong with the people who commit these crimes, though, and THEY are the ones who should be ashamed. Admitting something like this, though, on a message board, doesn't feel very brave to me. But I will gladly accept the compliment if I ever publish my autobiography, because -that- thought scares the bejeesus out of me.
Based on the number (grossly underreported) of young girls and women that have been sexually assaulted, I would not be surprised to learn that most of the female posters on this board feel the same as yourself DH. My heart goes out to you hon, no one deserves that.
I didn't share the information for sympathy, dear. I hate sympathy, because it all feels so patronizing to me. It was simply stated to point out the obvious: being closer to the situation my understanding is a bit more clear of the emotions involved. Given that my understanding is better, and that I saw no wrong in the comments that were considered so offensive, obviously the missing link that causes misunderstanding is actual experience. Don't be sorry. I'm not. The only thing about my situation that makes me sorry is that my voice alone wasn't strong enough to send the man to prison. In fact, he only went to prison last year, over another girl. And I'm sorry that we'll likely never know how many girls were hurt by him. I'm not sorry about my experiences in life, however painful they may be. Without them, I wouldn't be the person I am today, and I quite like myself. Besides, all the bad has only ignited in me a passion to help other people. I'd rather spend my time trying to help others avoid or cope with bad situations than dwell on my own. The latter helps no one.
It's really no surprise that there are so many unreported cases. The emotions that go through one's head following such events are typically negatively aimed at oneself. It's been reported in many psychological studies. The victim blames themself for the attach, tries to rationalize it away by assuming they did something to deserve it. It's the same sort of thought process that goes on with victims of domestic violence, which, though few actually know it, usually encompasses sexual violence as well as physical. It's ok. As I said earlier, without my experiences I'd be a different person. Without trauma I would never have developed such an interest in psychology.
DH- I am so sorry to hear this happened to you! It has to be one of the most horrible things that could ever happen to any woman let alone to a little girl. :smt056
I'm shocked by the idea of a man getting raped as vengeance for being raped. I'm disgusted that a woman, whose gender is overwhelmingly the victim of rape, would encourage it as revenge. Disgusted. As would every decent citizen of the world be.
Correct, the bubble is lovely. We are the most unarmed people in the western world, and our murder rate reflects this SUPERIOR state of affairs. We don't NEED to kill anyone. We didn't allow ourselves to get into the shit you are in, despite the fact we both bore arms in our last war against each other. We have our share of headcases, but they are controlled. And unarmed. Lousy weather, our national cuisine sucks, but we're alive, and we have a damn sight better chance of staying that way. I think we understand each other.
DH! I just want to say that I think you are very very brave! I admire that in you, among many other things. You rock!
