Would you hit a female if she did this?

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by malikom, May 25, 2009.

  1. Arwen

    Arwen New Member

    I love that girl.
    One time I ACCIDENTALLY punched my man. We were playing fight and I didn't take the measures, lol. He had blood on his lips and had them puffy the whole day.
     
  2. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    I'm not? :smt017 Then what do you think I'm doing?
     
  3. chicity

    chicity New Member

    You are disagreeing with someone else's opinion about what to do if you are hit. Obviously not mine, as I have not put forward any opinion on this*. My posts have been entirely about equality in these situations. If you are stating that both men & women should do X when hit, and both are equally responsible for X behavior in that situation, then you are in fact agreeing with me.





    *Haveta say now tho, I agree wholeheartedly with Liquid Swords on the subject.
     
  4. satyricon

    satyricon Guest

    Fuck this thread.
     
  5. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    I do believe that the bolded statement qualifies as an opinion. And Liquid Swords is saying the same thing. Therefore, that is both of your opinions and you've stated that prior to this post.
     
  6. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    Co-sign. I'm done with it.
     
  7. chicity

    chicity New Member

    Again, (I don't know why I'm repeating this): If your opinion is that neither men nor women should ever hit each other under any circumstances, then I agree with you. My disagreement is entirely with the idea of holding men and women to different standards.
     
  8. satyricon

    satyricon Guest

    What about upper body strength?

    And sex is what you're trying to refer to, not gender. Sex constitutes the biological differences (reproductive, et. al.) between men and women; gender is the social construction of sex.

     
  9. chicity

    chicity New Member

    Men do not have upper body strength by nature of their gender. (no I will not play your silly word games). Men tend to have greater upper body strength than women, which is about as relevant as Asian men having less overall bulk than Black & White Men. If we're going to go around making dividing lines as to what we consider ethical behavior based upon the muscular tendencies of groups, we might as well extend it to all groupings. So, no Black Man should EVER hit an Asian Man, and so forth. Which is ridiculous. If you want to say no larger, muscular person with great upper body strength should EVER hit someone with less mass, muscle & strength, then that could be done on a case-by-case. Claiming some kind of "men are big, women are small, we should treat women like they are small" is bullshit, and stands up to no analysis whatsoever. Fuck that with a rusty spike.

    And, just for the record, upper body strength has shit all to do with your ability to fight. Kick boxing ftw. You're done.
     
  10. FEHG

    FEHG Well-Known Member

    If I hit anyone, I should expect to get hit back. Simple.
    That's why I don't hit people, and if I was hit, I would hope I could walk away - but who knows?

    EDIT: Actually, the reason I don't hit people is because it woul show a character flaw in me - but the thought that I will get smacked in return is also a deterrent.
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2009
  11. Liquid Swords

    Liquid Swords New Member

  12. FEHG

    FEHG Well-Known Member

    I think that used to be a man.
     
  13. satyricon

    satyricon Guest

    I was hoping that you'd give a stupid ass response and of course you didn't disappoint.

    Once again, gender is a social construction of the biological differences between the sexes. It's not word games porkchop and I'd challenge you to discern the difference before speaking on it again.

    Also, I never made the assertion that men shouldn't hit women because they tend to be physically smaller (sexual dimorphism). It is natural for human beings to exploit advantages however they may arise. As a case in point, I have no problem with verbally abusing you even though you are intellectually inferior to me.

    Men and women should not hit anyone unless they are acting in self-defense; even then the act should be a judgment call based upon the level of threat presented by one's attacker.

     
  14. Liquid Swords

    Liquid Swords New Member

    Haha, she used to be a wrestler. She would fight with men and everything. Not sure if she used to be a man but she probably took steroids or something. Eeeek.
     
  15. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    Loving your work Saty. Yet again. :smt055
    Hahahahaha :)
     
  16. chicity

    chicity New Member

    I refuse your challenge, because you're trying to distract & deflect. Christ you're boring. I have no interest or need to prove my vocabulary to you. It has shit all to do with what I'm talking about.

    Even if I was using entirely the wrong word, like, say "gander" or "poopsadoodle" it isn't hindering communication, you know full well what I fucking mean, and you're trying to control the conversation, which only makes me want to continue using these words forever. In fact, I think I'll start working irregardlessly into the conversations, just on the off chance it might bug you. Gosh I hope it does. Irregardlessly of everything, I hope it does.


    Aww, aren't your delusions adorable. Somebody get him a cookie. Quick, before he wets himself.
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2009
  17. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    I feel bad for X-Pac. He had to fuck her.
     
  18. csbean

    csbean New Member

    Damn, I left for a few hours to take a nap and the thread's gone to hell. When I was in high school and college, I used to be of the opinion that women and men are equals or should be equal in every way. This was until I moved in with my boyfriend after college.

    My bf felt the same way I did about equality between the sexes. So, everything we paid for was split down the middle. Household chores were to be divided up between us. We thought we were going to have the utopia of a relationship that those before us couldn't because we were so much more progressive.

    I am three years younger then him, and I was going back to school for my teaching license. He had established himself as an advertising copywriter for a couple years so had had a steady income. It wasn't long before I realized that the "split everything down the middle" concept wasn't working. I was only able to split everything because I was using students loans.

    I did most of the housework. The little housework he did attempt, was done so poorly (food stuck to dishes after washing them) that I had to re-do it. I frequently needed him to help me with tasks that required heavy lifting that I initially thought I could do on my own. Even after we agreed that everything would be equal, I was doing almost all the domestic work but still paying out money I didn't have. It took a long time for me to admit it, but I now prefer some typical gender roles.

    These days, I would not lay a finger on someone I love that was not in a loving manner (and I haven't.) A few years ago, I slapped a wm who led me on but later professed that he was seeing someone else. No, it was not rational, I was extremely emotional and hurt. But women are smaller, and my slap was nothing much than a sting on his face and a jab at his pride. He stood there, looked stunned, and continued to pursue me for some time after that.

    I am older and wiser, and I have better control of my emotions now and know better not to slap a man when I am upset. However, I would never slap a bm because their cultural reference for such a situation varies greatly from a wm's cultural reference.
     
  19. romeostarr

    romeostarr New Member

    i understand and was taught from an early age that men are never to hit women. however there are women who think its perfectly fine to hit a man. but i was also taught that any woman who is willing to fight a man should be able take what's coming to her. i was in a situation not to long ago, at a club when these girls were being belligerent and obnoxious to the female i was with. it got to a point where they just wanted to fight her for no reason, so they square off and i step in between cause i wasn't gonna let my friend get hurt. then the girl started in on me. pushing me and putting her fingers all in my face (i really hate that) i tried to walk away and as soon as i turned to leave she punches me dead in my face, hard too. know what happened to her? she got knocked the fuck out. some guys tried to step in and defend her, they got dropped too bottom line don't touch me i wont touch you.
     
  20. BlackMasterJay

    BlackMasterJay Well-Known Member

    ^^Childhood Sociology 101.

    ^^Easy there tough guy.
     

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