Destiny

I'm curious what do you guys think about your destiny. do you consider your life as something prescribed (by God, or some superior force/destiny...) or maybe you tend to think that a human can control everything and he is the only one who has the power to rule his life, and nothing else can affect it?

thanks for your answers

 

I have no idea but am very interested in this thread.

Sometimes think everything is predestined by God and other times I think that so much of it depends on us and our attitude and effort in life. Of course, I have a hard time with those who seem to try so hard only to get no where. It's just not fair. At the same time I don't want to attribute living a life a love to pure luck.

So again, no idea. lol

 

I don't believe anyone or anything is predestined. Simply because I refuse to believe that some children are predestined to be molested, some women are predestined to be raped or that anyone is predestined to be murdered.
If this was true, that would mean the molesters, rapists and murderers were not responsible for their actions because they were destined to do these things (and therefore had no control over their actions).
I don't think you can believe the good (eg: a couple were destined to be together, someone was destined for 'great things') are destiny and the bad is not. You have either (predestined or not predestined) or you have neither.

But this is just my personal opinion, of course.

 

I believe along the lines of deism. I think Allah (God) created the world but does not intervene in it.

I will write more later if anyone is interested, but my tummy is grumbling.

 

I googled deism and I believe along the lines of that too. Plus other stuff, I'll probably come back and write more about it later after I've caught up on some other stuff.

 

No destinies.

 

I believe some things happen for a reason. There are patterns and coincidences that I've noticed personally in my life that just seem too strange to be simple coincidences.

But on the same note I also believe that sometimes we feel the urge to rationalize things that happen at random as destiny, or fate, in order to better receive and accept the information surrounding the event(s) because some things, despite their random nature, are easier to handle if we believe there's some cosmic reason for everything.

So I guess I lie along the middle of the path. I don't believe everything in a single human life is preordained before birth. Choice is constantly available. However, certain choices lead us along certain paths that seem a little too set in stone to be just random. One could argue that if there is any choice at all then fate does not play a factor, or even that the choice is only imagined and the person making the decisions would make those choices regardless...but I like to think I have a little more control than that.

 

That's a good point.

 

I believe in free will and everything that it entails.

 

Atheist here.I believe that we make our own destiny trough willpower and resistance in front of life's hardships.I guess it's easier to think there's a superior being that controls everything, good and bad, that rewards and punish you, and if you fail with something you can say that it wasn't meant to be, you're destiny is different, god didn't want that etc. - that's a consoling thought - and exactly the role that organized religion must fulfill.
Especially in the Dark Ages when the state and law enforcement were weak the church and it's doctrine were the means to keep the mobs quiet and submissive, it also consoled the poor with promises of afterlife, poor ppl that otherwise would have rebelled against the social injustice. So historically speaking this institution was very useful and it still is - what would so many ppl do without the hope and consolation that religion provides?
But if one is strong than he/she should have the power to realize that only we, individually, control our destiny and we as a society write the rules after we live and are responsible for our progress and our failures.

 

I don't take it upon myself to answer existential questions. When I read your question, I remembered an article, or maybe it was a letter, that I once read in the Russian paper "Argumenty i Fakty." A lady was saying how when she was little, her grandmother told her two things: "Ot svojej sudby nie ujdesh" i "Vse, Natashenka, v tvoich rukach" - two seemingly opposite statements...

There is a school of thought that teaches that there are certain major events or paths that are dictated by the "divine energy" or God or destiny whatever you want to call it, however we also have free will and choice when it comes to other events. I think that the famous Serenity Prayer supports this point:

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference. [/FONT]

 

No I don't accept a fatalistic view of the universe, only choices and responsibility for those choices.

The highlighted portion is brilliant.

 

What's all this Marxism we got going on here...

 

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More existentialism than anything.

 

Karl Marx hold similar ideas regarding church, it's true, but Nietzsche is the main anti-religious ideologist that influenced the 20 century (I won't get into that, the ones that love history know why).
He devoted many of his works to analyzing organized religion, it's role in history and modern society, "The Antichrist" being his most important work in this regard, and he was not a leftist by any means, actually everyone knows he was as right-wing as it can possibly be.
His writings regarding the nature of truth, good and evil and "the will to power" are all very interesting also.The whole concept of progress and human evolution in his philosophy is centred around the moral superiority of the ones who have the inspiration, courage and will power to break the barriers and bring the society to a new level of politics/science/art/whatever, while christian religion with it's fake natural equality theories (humans are only socially =), submissive and fatalist doctrine is doing more bad then good in the long term.
Nietzsche finds even some links between christian religion and the communist doctrine that also disregards the fact that ppl aren't naturally born equal and dreams a unnatural 1 class society structure wich is unrealistic and can only inhibit progress and bring the civilization downhill.

 

Destiny

noun, plural -nies.

1. something that is to happen or has happened to a particular person or thing; lot or fortune.

2. the predetermined, usually inevitable or irresistible, course of events.

3. the power or agency that determines the course of events.

4. this power personified or represented as a goddess.

Personally I have always felt everyone's destiny is already predetermined. Yes you have control over the choices you make in life but whatever choice you made, you were going to make that choice anyway or guess what you what not done what you just did. Right up until the date, day and time that has your name on it when you pass away it's unavoidable, you can't stop it!

 

I believe God has a plan for everybodies life, but it's up to each individual to either stick to that plan, or deviate from it.

 

yeah, do it please, i am very interested in what are you gonna say about it

 

as far as children and women and everybody else who seems to have bad luck and disasters, i believe that it's all because of karma. we all come to this earth with some things that we need to work through while this life, cause we haven't done it in the previous ones. a person who gets raped was maybe a sex maniac in his previous life. It's hard to explain in english, but i hope i could make it clear and you know what i'm trying to say. lol

 

hmmm so categorical...what makes you so sure about it'?