Most racist nations in the western world.

There was a poll in France in 2005 where 2/3 of the French bluntly admitted they were racist. I can't find the link to the article anymore, but I've found another survey were 30% of French people consider themselves racist.

Poll: 30% of French people consider themselves racist

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/AntiSemi/8081.htm

If you do a poll or a survey like this in the United States, you will not get the similar results mostly because the US has some sort of brainwashing pc culture that prevent people from speaking their mind on race. So the cultural aspect of a society should be considered. Maybe people are just more honest about their feelings of race in some societies. And can one really measure or quantify the amount of racism a society has? Weird...

 

I think European countries in general will get more and more intolerant of foreigners(south asians,arabs,africans),the more people immigrate there.
Alot of people feel like they are under siege by muslims.More and more mosque are being built around Europe.Alot of them feel as if their culture is under attack or something.

 

It is under attack..You think arab countries would allow MILLIONS of single christian MEN into their Countries every year??

I doubt it.

 

i've been called the N word to my face in america

so



surely Rome can't be any worse than a white neighborhood in philly

 

It is far deeper than that mate.

If we look upon the history of slavery in Europe, it was the Spaniards that brought Africans to England and, the West Indies to be slaves. Had it not been for England defeating Spain in Jamaica, who is to say what would have come about of that Island?

I have no idea how the slave trade came about in the States. However, the root of the African slave trade in Europe is all courtesy of Spain.

Possibly an American can share their thoughts on the root of their source. Their history is far more brutal than those who stem from Europe. I would imagine this is why the animosity among Black Americans & White Americans keeps them apart in the States. I actually feel it is fear of rejection on both sides.

I will say this. My everyday lifestyle keeps me in neighbourhoods that offer Americans that are 99% White. Only when I venture in all Black communities I get discriminated for not looking what they feel a Black person is supposed to look like. I dress European, which many (Not all) Black Americans tell me I dress White. I would say this happens 30% of the time. It is that type of separation that many Black Europeans endure when they do not dress more to wards the Hip Hop fashion, which seems to be the standard among Black Americans. Matters are even worse when I can understand but cannot relate to their hardships they (Blacks who were born in America) encounter with White Americans when mine are complete opposite.

I don’t think many of them realise there is a whole different world outside the States. What is considered standard in America is not the same in Europe.


Cheers!

 

I actually agree with you here.
I think a lot of it is to do with the fact that immigrants have very closed, segregated communities here. I can only speak for Manchester really but there are parts of Manchester where it's ONLY Asians, and areas where there are more mosques than churches. English people aren't generally that religious but they still consider it a threat.
One of the reasons why I think English people are hostile towards foreigners is because these segregated communities always speak about how much they hate England, and the English, yet they move here and carry on living here. Most (not all) of the racism in England is directed at Asians. I've had black friends and white friends all go 'well, I'm not racist, but I really can't stand Asians.'

 

I know i'm in an entirely different area to you, i remember watching the Oldham race riots on the news, non interaction between different cultures is a problem there i know.

But on a high note we have a Mosque about a mile from me we do have a Muslim community here, and when i was working as a manager in my dads town, there was a Mosque being built and had to deal with them on a daily basis and i can honestly say it was probably the most easiest renovation i hired out to, i went to site with equipment many times, an absolute joy to deal with.

The only thing i dislike ref Asians is when they only do buisiness with other Asians therefore not contributing financialy to the community as a whole, but off course the same can be said of the Turkish, who tend to only hire other Turks and deal with them and so on. Ive heard people bring this issue up many times and i can see where there coming from in that sense but nothing else irks me.

Oh and these Honour killings are defo bad bit of press as a whole, but there are always the exstremists who make everyone else look bad.

 

I agree Spain’s association with racism is deeper than the most recent spate of racist incidents. But, I do believe many of the younger generation are unaware of Spain's role in slavery. So, I would be more inclined to think that only the more educated individuals would be aware of their role in slavery. I think if you asked the average Brit (football-mad), if they thought Spain was racist, and they responded with a yes. Their reasoning would be based more on the recent football & grandprix events then what happened centuries ago during slavery in my opinion.

Yeah, I see what you mean by people expecting you to dress a certain way. I guess if you are black in the USA, you are expected to fill a certain stereotype, just like in the UK if you from South London you are expected to fill a certain Ghetto attitude, you know, say "blud, init..etc..After every sentence. I think you would probably get the same response, “you dress like a white boy", if you lived or mixed with people from a heavily black areas in the UK too. Thinking of places like Brixton.
I personally dress more on the hip-hop side; it’s just what I feel more comfortable in.

And with regards to Black American hardships, as I haven't been there before I can’t really comment that much on that. But, by reading a lot of what has been said on these forums I would agree with you that the experiences Black Americans face seem to be different to Black brits. In my opinion the UK still has its issues too, with race, but they just don’t seem to be as significant as in USA. In the job market, what I seem to find with the UK, is it’s more your class and the way you speak than your race that affects your job prospects. You just will not get high profile jobs if you speak a certain way, which I know can sometimes be aligned to race. For example if you are from a working class background, and you want to work for an investment bank, you will be discriminated against. This problem is probably not exclusive to the UK though.

Anyway, I think People like yourself will probably get further career-wise because you don’t fit the typical black stereotype that the corporate world doesn't like. So I say be proud of your European ways.

 

If you change it to "didn't want their neighbors to be homosexual" it is almost two times higher than the racial/religious discrimination for some countries. I'm glad this study looked at religious and sexual preference discrimination and not just race discrimination. So many people get wrapped up in racism but couldn't give a damn about other types of discrimination.

 

This is particularly high in Northern Ireland. No wonder when one of its Government ministers (Unionist ) is openly anti gay, describing it as a disease. Also the Unionist (British) community in Northern Ireland has a certain element who is openly anti foreigner, and that includes white Europeans as well. A good example being a white French national who had to quit her post because of threats.

 

I think one of the biggest problems in any country is if you go to a country. You really should try to assimilate more.Otherwise you get a lot of they took our jobs,hate,etc. If you just stay in a community with other people that come from the same country,culture,etc. That leads to a lot of ignorance about you and hatred. Like in the US one of the problems is immigration from Mexico. People are mad that Mexicans are taking jobs and speaking Spanish is becoming an increasing requirement in the job market.

 

I think you have a point.

About Italy, well IMO 'il belpaese' (It's another way to call Italy, il bel paese means ' the beautyfull country') is between the most racist countryes, is because the victory of Berlusconi and the right wing.

Just IMO...

 

Yes, I agree as well.

 

I agree with you as well and I would just like to add a few examples.

I can't find the English word for it, but what you just described is called communautarisme in French. It basically describe the immigrants that aren't totally assimilated to their culture of adoption and would rather stay in their community. France has had problem with it and it was one of the reason there were the events in 2005 in Paris etc. It's also one of the most common argument the anti-semite use against Jews: They stick together, they stay in a community, they control everything etc.

The "they took our jobs" or "take our jobs" is endemic to the world. Black South Africans in South Africa say that about other black Africans who come from the North or even from the neighborhood countries such as Zimbabwe etc, and the hatred and xenophobia is palpable if you ever visit Johannesburg and even other places I've heard. "They came here, steal our jobs and our women" is often heard.

According to a census, there's one million Chinese out of a population of roughly 16 million Africans in Cameroon, and almost all Cameroonian I've met here in Los Angeles complain about the Chinese controlling the informal economy, small markets and businesses etc their country. And now I've heard that people are even complaining about Chinese in the Democratic Republic of Congo doing the same thing.

French plumbers, electricians, delivery men etc complain about Poles, Hungarian, Portuguese taking their jobs, working for less money and they blame it on the European Union and the Schengen Space that removed systematic border controls

I saw a report about the Skin-heads in Russia, and many of them blame the foreigner for coming to their countries, taking their jobs and working for less pay and they use that reason for their hatred of foreigners. It was somewhere on youtube.

The French did the same for the Italian during the 30's and of course, Germans blamed jews in the most infamous case. Though those accusation are often groundless, it usually leads to one of the most dangerous thing a society can have: scapegoating, which is as old as dirt. The sad part is that all those sentiments against a peticular ethnic group or race are usually exploited by some sick demagogues and the situation can turn very ugly like in Rwanda for instance.

I live in Los Angeles, so I've heard that one too and too many times. It's another case that I found totally unjustified. What kind of jobs Mexicans are taking/stealing that other Americans covet so much? And where in the United States Spanish is becoming an increasing requirement on the job market? California? Miami? Arizona, New Mexico? I am always baffled on how people would find any reason to hate or justify their prejudices.

 

Yeah,black south Africans are very xenophobic,especially towards west Africans(Nigerians) in particular.There is hatred for them in south africa
I remember reading a report about how these south africans murdered a reggae star from jamaica because they thought he was Nigerian....
In Africa you got ethnic groups that dont like other groups,nationalistic pride,etc etc.

 

was it lucky dube by any chance?
he was murdered in south africa, his music was wonderful

 

Lucky Dube was not a Jamaican, he was a South African. I think his murder was not due hate crime but carjackking.

 

Hey I'm Italian...I love black men and so do most of my Italian and Portuguese and Irish bff...so I really don't believe the poll is accurate:smt009

 

Polls are never accurate.

I belive this is just a picture of the political reality of the cited countryes, not the people. Offcourse there are always some racist freak, but thay are either ignorant (and they usually change they'r mind when they know the people they are hostile, better) or hardcore, blindfolded racial ideologist. And they will never ever change. No matter what arguments you use and no matter how hard you try. They are a total waste of time.

 

Sweden and Norway are from my experience the 2 most racist nations in Europe, you all have problems discerning racism and political views, Sweden may be very liberal as a country, accepting many immigrants from various parts of the world, but do you really think a Swedish girl would give a brotha a chance?, they wouldn't, and you know why?, because they think they are too good for black men, so how do you define racism?, what would you prefer, a country that treats very one of its citizens equally and has very liberal laws, or a country where most people don't see you as "inferior". Italians and Spaniards are not very politically correct, they harass blacks at football stadiums, do all sorts of unthinkable things, but in general they do NOT see blacks as inferior, Italian girls are far more likely to date black men, their bahavior is NOT rooted in nazi beliefs, nazi beliefs that are highly prevalent among white Americans and some Northern Europeans like Swedes and Norwegians. Denmark and Finland are ok though, not particularly racist.

So, most racist countries in Europe : Sweden and Norway
In the western world : Sweden, Norway and United States.