Chivalry from a Woman’s perspective

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Complex, Jan 31, 2009.

  1. Complex

    Complex New Member

    This past Friday, I needed to go to Brooklyn, to fix this blokes computer. Because of his location I needed to take a Bus (which I despise for they are too slow for my taste) to his home.

    Right!

    While standing on the crowded bus, a seat becomes available. I am standing directly behind the chair while a Woman is standing right across. Before, taking the seat, she paused and asked would I like to sit down. My reply was, no thank you, by all means ladies first.

    I was so shocked that she took it upon herself to conduct an act of chivalry it became the highlight for the rest of the ride.

    Just something I wanted to share.

    Cheers!
     
  2. Effie

    Effie New Member

    chiv·al·ry (sh?v'?l-r?) n. pl. chiv·al·ries

    1. The medieval system, principles, and customs of knighthood.
      1. The qualities idealized by knighthood, such as bravery, courtesy, honor, and gallantry toward women.
      2. A manifestation of any of these qualities.
    2. A group of knights or gallant gentlemen.


    She was certainly being polite or thoughtful, but chivalrous? Let's not confuse apples with ovaries.
     
  3. Tinkerbell

    Tinkerbell New Member

    Well, maybe she is a real feminist, and believes in EQUALITY between the sexes, and is a genuinely nice person to boot.

    I would probably have thought it would embarrass a man to do that, so I wouldn't have wanted to do that.

    I find your reaction fascinating. If a man would not be embarrassed, then maybe I could do that sometimes. I'm sure most men would still insist that the Lady sit first, because even men who may not normally think about it would if the lady asked them to sit first. But I guess what got to you was that she took the effort and thought about it.

    I think that is a great story. She is probably a really nice lady. ;) Did you get her phone number??
     
  4. Liquid Swords

    Liquid Swords New Member

    I'd offer ANYONE the seat before me... man or woman. I'm not a feminist, I was just brought up with manners. All my friend's mums love me because I'm so polite. :D
     
  5. karmacoma.

    karmacoma. Well-Known Member

    :smt060
     
  6. Complex

    Complex New Member

    I take it you missed the header: Chivalry from a Woman’s perspective.

    I hope you don't assume Men won't acknowledge when a Woman takes it upon herself to perform chivalry traits. Especially when the Man is notorious of performing such acts ;)

    It is in fact an act that some Men do. However, there is no rule stating a Woman cannot do it. The Women who do will be looked upon with admiration for making such efforts.


    Cheers!
     
  7. Complex

    Complex New Member

    Would you believe I replied but never pressed the submit button before shutting down the computer? :smt083 I would imagine the more than usual consumption of alcohol beverages paid its toll on me after returning from a Loft Party.

    A Man’s reaction might differ based on his maturity. If one takes those jesters as complimentary, I see no reason to feel awkward if such an event occurs.

    The Woman was not my type. She did however, leave me rather impress conducting in such a manner.

    Cheers!
     
  8. fromrussiawithlove

    fromrussiawithlove New Member

    Yep, same here. I'm one of these people that say please and thank you about a hundred times, haha.
     
  9. Stheno

    Stheno New Member

    I am not going to lie and say i will offer the seat to everyone but i will to people i see they need it more then me
     
  10. Effie

    Effie New Member

    Nope, didn't miss it. I don't miss much. :)

    Nope, didn't assume that. I assume less than I miss. :)

    I am glad you winked at that statement dear, after all this is post-feminist history and (as a result) what modern men are "notorious" for is not exactly chivalry. When such an act is performed it is very much appreciated by myself (and I'm sure many others) but it sadly seems to be the exception rather than the rule. Let that be a lesson to gentlemen everywhere; Woman like exceptional men. :)

    Which is the point of my original post. Philologist that I am, I found the true definition of chivalry stands as "a code of conduct for men towards woman" to be germane to the discussion and adds texture to the conversation. That's how we nerds are.

    I did, however, include in my original post that this act might be called "polite" or "thoughtful"

    It is also interesting to note that just a few short generations ago, such an act by this woman would have been considered strange and even insulting to the manhood of the fellow. See, now I've added texture from the historical context too. :)

    Hugs!
     
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2009
  11. z

    z Well-Known Member

    You live where again?
     
  12. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    has anyone been watching the reality tv show about the "beautiful people" ...it is supposed to be a series of challenges that they either win/lose and two people go to the hall of beauty every week and one person is eliminated...all have physical beauty but what the judges are looking for and setting up are challenges that the contestants either embrace the adversity or they whine, complain and act stupid all while being recorded...it's funny how people actually see themselves versus how they are in reality...those that believe they are little miss mary sunshine:smt061 100% of the time are really lil' bitches...and the men that claim to be so fabulous:smt029 are the ones that get caught in the cookie jar...at the end of the show the judges always say, there is more to beauty that what meets the eye...and then they show the person they are sending home all of their bad behavior...it's hilarious when they walk out with their tails between their legs

    i am a show me person...i don't want to hear how fabulous someone thinks they are I would rather sit back and watch how they handle themselves...

    as a woman i appreciate a man that makes the effort to be a gentleman...i am not very old school and very capible of doing many things for myself...i don't play the damsel in distress unless we are doing a little roleplaying then i am more than happy to let a man rescue me and repay him for his chivalry
     
  13. Arwen

    Arwen New Member

    Same here. I will kick my child's ass if he/she doesn't say "hello", "please" and thank you". They are holy words and I get very upset when ppl don't say them.
    I would ask everybody if they want to take the sit instead of me, if me and the other person were headed to the same sit. If I'm already sat and a old, pregnant or sick person didn't have a sit, I would stand up.
    I didn't stand up for an old person one time because I needed to study and I felt like a shit for 2 days for that. :smt105


    Anyways...next time I see a hot guy I'll ask him to take my sit and see if he talks to me lol
     
  14. Bug

    Bug Well-Known Member

    Yeah me too, i have to get the last thank you in there, when im being served at the counter its like a manners stand off, if she says thank you again, i say it right back, until....... im the last one. :D
     
  15. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Seen the show once, pretty cool
     
  16. Serendipity

    Serendipity New Member

    Agree she was being extremely polite especially for Brooklyn LOL but I don't think it was chivalrous.

    As far as "chivalry" from men towards women ... I'm one woman that CANNOT STAND IT !!!!! No opening doors unless you're the first one at the door, no helping on with jacket ..bleh I hate that ... and all the other "typical" stuff ...just does absolutely nothing for me.
     
  17. Serendipity

    Serendipity New Member

    Co-sign. If its someone elderly or looks like they need to sit I will offer the seat but otherwise its first come first serve.
     
  18. Complex

    Complex New Member

    With the difference in opinions, it is easily shown why it takes more than being attractive to maintain a steady relationship for some. Those who fall within the “very attractive” category, tend to look at things far beyond the outer shell, whereas, others use good looks as their primary agenda. Where one stands, may, offer strong or negative affects based by the person on the receiving end.

    The relevance amongst the two co-insides quite eloquently when you sit down and think about it.

    Cheers!
     
  19. fromrussiawithlove

    fromrussiawithlove New Member

    You know what, I think it's a British (and Italian!) thing and we're just all great.
    I used to think British people were rude until I went abroad. I couldn't WAIT to come back to a place where people actually apologised if they bumped into you, and said thank you and please in a store and not just...stared at you blankly.
     
  20. z

    z Well-Known Member

    fukk being cordial and polite, a lot of humans don't deserve it.
     

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