Intelligent people less likely to believe in religion..

Discussion in 'In the News' started by Madiba, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. Liquid Swords

    Liquid Swords New Member

  2. BlackMasterJay

    BlackMasterJay Well-Known Member


    Scylla: to truly understand this phenomenon you should imagine yourself walking through a university.

    Firstly you might walk though the Religion department filled with bleeding heart liberals and preachers advocating a system of beliefs upon its students by linking everything in life back to God, and how the greatest wonders in the world has yet to be explained by sceince. Then you might walk through the department of Science and see hyperactive geeks practicing new fashions of advertising to sell new lab equipments and so called pain killers to unsuspecting humans. You may even get "lectured" by one of the "highly gifted" professors that Science is mightier than religion as it is a specified kind of study. Unlike religion, science is meant to determine from observation including experimentation the kind of underlying principles that serve as knowledge that is the basis for effective plans. Then you might walk further and find yourself in the Philosophy Department where students are taught to ponder and define what is compelling to imagine and yet must remain indefinable, hoping they can evoke lucid inklings despite the sirens call of tangential distraction. Then you might walk through the Department of literature where empty rhetoric is the key; as students practice their skills in story telling via the mangling of language in their pursuit of the glorious joy of hearing their own voices, or reading their own thoughts.

    Basically, nothing in this world is tangible, and every department of learning has its own valid opposing point of view. That is, for religious people, there are endless scientific explanations for matters that religion will fail to comprehend. And yet, the nature of certain "mysteries" in this world can only be based on the existence of god. Ofcourse as you said, just because it is scientifically inexplicable does not mean it can be explained through God. However, you must be a believer to "truly" feel yourself moved,motivated and in most cases overwlehmed when worshiping God. How even in the most traumetic cases and times, praying can still ,to an extent evoke from within, the joy of being alive.
     
  3. LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR

    LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR New Member

    Ah, Quantum Theory.
     
  4. scylla

    scylla New Member

    You know, that brain of yours, I like it.

    Unfortunatly my english is way too crappy today to elaborate on what you say, so I'll settle for saying: yes, something like that.

    Still, to claim that all departments have their own valid point of view.. I'd say that they all have their own valid reason for their starting point, socio-economic or other. But studying religion is not the same as studying science. You can't look into religion to explain why a certain type of bacteria doesn't grow in daylight, but you can do scientific research that gives a conclusion.

    I have to say I fail to see your point. You aren't really arguing for anything are you? I'm blaming my english skills now but to me this seems like a mere stating of facts. Yes, prayer can surely move people if they believe in it, but so can prayer to any god, however minor, so can yoga, pilates and mountain hiking. The human need for a higher power, our need to not be alone, is not anything else then a biological function, the need for something doesn't imply the existence, there is no correlation. It's not like there is grass because cows needs to eat it. We construct things we need, like religion, houses, cars and clichés.
     
  5. scylla

    scylla New Member

    there is nothing as missunderstood as quantum theory. first person that says "parallell universes" without explaining themself properly I'll personally slap.
     
  6. LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR

    LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR New Member

    You have already slapped me in another universe or maybe you didn't. You know, not you but a you. Assuming it was a parrallel you to the you that typed the above not the you in that parallel universe of which I speak.
     
  7. scylla

    scylla New Member

    Oh ARGH. *slaps*
    You just had too didn't you?
     
  8. LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR

    LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR New Member

    ***...and in parallel universe 69 (heh), another kitten dies*** or did it?
     
  9. scylla

    scylla New Member

    Yeah, i'm just gonna get my parallell me to open the box and check. :p
     
  10. z

    z Well-Known Member

    I have taken it on several occassions and have done very well on it. In addition, I've taken numerous higher ed. exams and pissed on them as if they were nothing. What the fukk does an IQ test has to do with my relationship to God. Furthermore, IQ test is culturally biased and proves nothing. I don't belive on that shit, I know MENSA members who have not mount to anything in life.

    Re: asking professors and religious gurus to explain about God and higher power,
    been there and done that- freshman year in college.

    Great minds of Benjamin Carson, M.D, Cornel West, Ph.D., Barack Obama, JD, etc.....all believe in God and worship him. So, who the fuk am I to question his existance? I am a nobody peon. The Audacity of me to question his existance, are you kidding me? I think NOT!

    I hope you find the love of Jesus.

    Peace
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2009
  11. scylla

    scylla New Member

    10% of scientists in US are christian.

    I'm thinking more along the lines of "who are you to tell that he does exist?".

    Who am I to say that there is no fairies in my garden.. :p
     
  12. Liquid Swords

    Liquid Swords New Member

    Dunno 'bout you but there are plenty fairies in my garden:weedman:
     
  13. LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR

    LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR New Member

    :smt104Attaining higher sensorineural states through use of neuro-stimulating phytochemicals? :smt033

    Good shit!:smt026

    But these fairies, are they still there when you turn away from them?:smt104
     
  14. Liquid Swords

    Liquid Swords New Member

    :smt043:smt043
     
  15. z

    z Well-Known Member

    Scylla,

    Good morning,

    Hope your weather is not as brutal as mine. In any event, I know there are US doctors and scientists who worship God but I do not know the percentage and could care less.
    I am not a Bible thumper and do not want to shove my beleif system down your throat. If you chose to be an atheist that is your prerogative, but I chose to believe in him. I am a social liberal, as long as what you do does not negatively affect me then am fine. I live my life and let others be.

    Peace
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2009
  16. scylla

    scylla New Member

    Well, you had me there. I respect your right to believe, but I also like my right to question that same belief.

    I checked the numbers actually. just for fun.. there is no statistics over sweden though, only that its 85% atheist. :)

    If religion makes you feel good and fulfilled, then go ahead:).
     
  17. z

    z Well-Known Member

    do you know why?
     
  18. LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR

    LUCIFERMORNINGSTAR New Member

    That's how they roll? :smt102
     
  19. z

    z Well-Known Member

    OK. Thanx Lucifer, BTW I heard you recovered well from the MI.
     
  20. scylla

    scylla New Member

    there is a correlation between education and atheism. We have a well functioning educational system that focuses on critical thinking more then factfeeding.

    I'm stating this because there is a correlation showed in meta-analyzis of data. So it's not taken out of thin air. Also, there isn't that much poverty here. That makes a difference too.
     

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