It's sad how some men feel women should actually be flattered by dehumanizing behavior. I saw a group of young men yell out to a random woman returning home during the rush hour..."You look sweet, I'll suck you p****!" They clearly did not know her, she was dressed nicely and there were several pedestrians (some with small children) who observed the entire incident.
Many become enraged if women reject that type of disrespect while the men consider themselves complimenting women. I could tell some stories about what I've seen and heard.
I get the impression many of the men do not want the black girls and women to receive respect so they try to encourage all men to dump on them. Some become very hostile when ignored. One guy yelled out "Who these biches think they are! I'm going to get me a white woman fvck these hos." He looked so mean and hateful yet expected a random teen to accept that disgusting and embarassing language as a compliment.
And therein lies the difference. I've seen teenaged boys in the presence of other non-black teens harrass even older black women who were merely walking trying to get to their jobs. This is why I believe they want other men to join in knowing the women have no support. It's a major problem that some folks are attempting to trivialize. While observing that teen I thought he had better sense than to do the same to non-black women.
What's even sadder is other men will not speak out on this problem and actually delight in knowing their own women are being debased and harrassed. This is why many women do not make eye contact in passing. You have to question what do they have to gain encouraging disrespect for women just because of the color of their skin.
porcelain sword could you please describe yourself, are you white? black? male? female? and what your doing on here? Im getting a picture of you but the picture I have is one that is passively anti bm, and definitely not pro-IR involving black men. If Im wrong please set me straight. Dont forget to answer the initial questions first. Thanks in advance.
It's unfortunately if it's unnerving to you that all white women do not despise black people as a "whole". Just and fair treatment shouldn't end with black/white men exclusively. Little do you know the respect that you crave will not be achieved by encouraging everyone around you to trample on black women and their children by extension which includes you as well. You want to be viewed as an "individual" just like everyone else to level the playing the field so you may as well understand raw hatred has no place in today's society. I was born white and will remain so but don't feel I have to despise black women to bond with black men. Plus I do not date black men exclusively as many women on the board. Now that some of you believe European and Asian women are superior to white Americans it's just a matter of time before we are on the receiving end of the same treatment you reserve for black women. It seems some of you relish the idea of women at loggerheads over you. This devisiveness needs to stop!
Okay, possibly that last post didn't express enough. It seems to me that black men find themselves in much the same dynamic with black women as white women found themselves with white men a few decades ago. From the dawn of the feminist movement, even dating back to suffragette days, black women were excluded. Today, many revisionists claim this was because black women chose to put black rights before women's rights, but the truth is that black women were excluded by white women from the very beginning. Over time, however, as women gained more equality, the results were gradually shared with all first world women, including black women. Having not been included in the struggle, however, black women had not internalized any of the philosophies -- equal rights, equal responsibilities, etc. Black women, who had always had to work even when many white women did not, are thus now immersed in two very conflicting ideologies: seeking out a man to take care of them, to be the provider & protector, while simultaneously pursuing an independent lifestyle. They are brought up to desire both equal treatment and special treatment. Compounding this confusion are the dregs of institutionalized racism, which encourages the hiring and promoting of "twofers" (as racists have so charmingly dubbed those with two types of minority status), particularly black women who are seen as less threatening to many of those white people who still harbor racism. At the lower end of the class spectrum, the same gender inequality occurs as the result of outdated social services that deny support to any family with a man in the home. The result of all this is a situation where the power dynamic in the black community substantially favors black women. This is no better than a community where the power dynamic substantially favors men. Without equality, someone is getting screwed, it is the nature of the game. You can see parallels between the white male/white female dynamic of years past and the black female/ black male dynamic today in many areas. For instance, abuse & police. In a dispute between a white man and a white woman, police have historically sympathized with the white man regardless of the existing situation. Likewise, in a dispute between a black man and a black woman, the police tend to sympathize with the black woman regardless of the existing situation. In generations past, if a white man felt that his wife was being unfaithful (often unjustifiably), he might feel free to storm through the house destroying those things precious to her, and attempt to intimidate her through force as a means of "teach her a lesson." If the wife called the police, those officers would more often than not side with the husband, refuse to report the crime, and might even assist in the lesson-teaching. Similarly, in a situation becoming ever more common, if a black woman suspects that her significant other has been unfaithful (often unjustifiably), she might feel free to storm through the house destroying those things precious to him in an attempt to intimidate him through force as a means of "teaching him a lesson." Not only will police be unlike to side with a black man in this case should he call, but many black women have taken to calling the police themselves in disputes where they are the agressor. Because the physical power of women is often less than men, in the current power dynamic between black men and black women, black women frequently use surrogates such as the police to commit abuse against black men. This may take the form of calling police for false reasons (often resulting in police brutality), or using friends and family to attack the black man. As a white woman who is deeply grateful for the rights I have today thanks to my mother's generation, and my grandmother's generation, and her grandmother's generation, I do consider it my responsibility to support others who seek equality. It is tempting, as a woman, to automatically side with women in every power struggle or dispute. This however makes for very shallow and inconsistent ideals. While it is true that historically and globally, women have been oppressed by men because of size differences we are no longer living in a society where size alone can determine one's relative power to the opposite gender. With black women currently holding the greatest amount of power between the genders in the black community, and currently being described as the leaders of that community, it is shortsighted to assume that those interested in gender equality and fairness should side with black women by default. It is important to note that speaking out about inequality is not divisive. Speaking out about black women's continual degradation of black men is no more divisive than objecting to Rush Limbaugh's constant yammering about "feminazis". It is divisive, however, to make up stories as a lame attempt to justify racist and outdated mythologies about interracial couples, on a board designed to celebrate such couples. BTW... I do not, for a second, believe you are who you say you are and I think your username would be better suited for racist site.
STANDING UP CLAPPING.:smt109:smt109:smt109 That should be required reading by anybody over the age of 12.