Would you propose to a guy?

Yeah especially if he officiates the wedding. That would be a riot ... Hi mom, look at our wedding pictures - LOL

 

That's a tough one Chosen. You are right, there is no clear definition that would satisfy all women. Some love a traditional man and are thrilled to be in a traditional "woman's role". Others like a mix of tradition and modern in their man. I think others still would like a strictly "modern" man with no hint of tradition. Perhaps getting that right from your woman is the best bet. I can't even hazard a guess as to what proportion of women like which kind of man!

If you want my personal views on what I want, just let me know, lol.

 

I dont think women should be seen as a "chosen prize" . A man and woman come together for mutual benefit. Physically, emotionally mentally and spiritually. It is a give and take relationship. Not only that we are living in an age of gender equality. I am not saying women should chase men. That not how its traditionally done and perhaps naturally meant to be too. All I am trying to point here is that certain women who are very attractive should not think of themselves as chosen prizes or trophy women. They might be beautiful externally but to make a relationship work over a long time, its the attitude, character and warmth thry provide that counts...As we grow older, the physicaly beauty fades away.. so I think women should be mature and act mature and not act pricey because they are beautiful xnterally.
This is all in context of a long term relationship....

 

When it comes to the female psychology... we want to FEEL like the chosen prize. And it has nothing to do with attractiveness. You men assign value to us based on our attractiveness to you. It doesn't mean we feel the same way about ourselves.

Try this once: sincerely compliment an unattractive woman. Notice her eyes light up and notice her smile. She's a woman too, and wants to feel like one.

 

I think if i got married again i'd buy a dress i could wear again instead of one that will sit in the cupboard with only one day wear to its name, my original wedding dress was pearlised pink with a full skirt but no train, i liked it but it would not be a look id go for again, i had all of his accessories dyed to match in with the exact colour of my dress and so on.

Anyway if i married again i would not have a reception, just a dinner for close family and friends, it would be very low key, oh and i might even wear black ?

Something along these lines

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I was married on top of a mountain (the heli-pad on Sulfur Mountain) in Banff National Park, here in Alberta. I wore a simple, inexpensive dress that was exactly what I wanted. He wore a really nice suit.

Afterwards we had a small lunch for family and then our honeymoon was at a rustic lodge where we skied and ice climbed. It was perfect.

If I ever get married again, it will be on the beach or a boat and the honeymoon will entail a lot of diving and swimming and other such tropical pursuits.

 

Yeah! - Imagine that... What do you think the poor GUY goes through? Suck it up!

 

Exactly! This is the problem at least in this country (USA) and why there are so many issues of divorce. The what have you done for ME and what can you provide for me thing takes precedence. Probably why I will never marry. What the hell happened to LOVE???

I dream of a world where someone sees the INDIVIDUAL before their job, car, education, ect.

Guess that's to much to ask in a capitalist society, eh?

 

I live near Banff Scotland, did you go to The Springs Hotel there? There's 1 here too .

 

Hmm, Im thinking marriage is something you discuss.. ? A mutual agreement?
I could probably propose, but first of all I don't think it's such a good idea for one partner to pop the question with all that comes with the stereotype.. Id rather be in a situation where both talks about it.
second of all, I'm not sure I want to get married. I'm not sure I like the concept.
Although I'd love to wear a fancy dress and all that, but there is other opportunities for that..

I can picture my akward face if a partner would stand there with a ring going
"marry me!"
"eh.. yeah, eh.. I think I left the stove on.. eh. wait.. I need to.. do some stuff.. I'll call you, ok?"

 

Yes, I did check out the Banff Springs Hotel here, it's beautiful! I had no idea there was one in Scotland!

 

A woman who is treasured will also treasure her man. It is seeing the man, before the income, it is also expecting him to see her, before he sees her body and her ability to cook and clean and raise kids.

Don't be so skeptical, give it try someday. You mind find out that you will love being in love, and loving someone more than yourself.

 

Very true.

 

I wasn't aware that I made it seem that I was in love with myself. I'm talking about basic human greed and shallowness in this country in particular although it applies to the entire world over.

Do you deny that MOST people look at something outside of the person BEFORE they see the person? Would you look at a garbage man for example as someone worthy of your attention before that phat pay lawyer/doctor/corporate shlub? Money SURE makes people more attractive don't it? The thing that your talking about is a RARE thing indeed.

Your message of loving someone other than yourself is accurate but misdirected. You are absolutely correct about men valuing women merely on appearance. I didn't mean to make it seem as if only women can be bastards.

 

We're ALL shallow. We all see the outside before we see the inside and if we like the outside do we even WANT to see the inside. I also don't see anything wrong with that. Its normal. Its human nature.

 

I wouldn't propose to a guy. I'd want the guy to do it. Would feel a lot better that way. The guy does, too.
I have been having a serious relationship with a guy for years now. It's clear for both of us that our final destination is marriage, one of the reason being we are both committed Christians, so our friendship/relationship so far was really about finding out if we wanna be married for the rest of our lives. We have figured that about two years ago now and I am just waiting for the official proposal;-)
It's been mainly career and studies related issues that have been keeping us from getting married so far so I am quite hopeful I'll be an engaged woman pretty soon. I'll let you know!
BTW I have spoken about marriage with my bf a lot of times and have made it clear I really want to get married and believe it's "about time". However I did not "propose" to him as such. He does think that should be his job and I am happier that way, too.

 

Actually yes, I would, if I liked his character, I was seriously interested in my guy before I had a clue he had any money. When I found out he was pretty well set, I considered it a bonus.

I don't care what he does for a living, I have my own money, and I don't need his. I do care that he have ambition to make something of himself, that's character, and that he be a man of faith. There may be many external things that would turn me off, but his job or status would not be one of them.

You may be right about most people, but I do consider that shallow, and I do not want a shallow man nor am I a shallow person.

 

I don't think she's confirming or denying anything about anybody else. She's speaking for herself and what she stands for. What's there to say, really? Are a lot of people shallow? Yes. Are a lot of people genuine and deep? Yes. You end up with who/what you attract, and are attracted to, on many levels.

 

I would also say that we tend to attract like, who we are is what we attract.

 

Absolutely, this is true in terms of vibrational energy. Take Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck. She's a beautiful woman, and he was attracted to her and dated her. But, in the end he married someone better suited for him, and they have a stable, happy family with two kids now - even though Jennifer Lopez had her famous figure and had caused much more noise with her looks than Jennifer Garner.