Including Your Woman in Decision Making

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by Blacktiger2005, Dec 25, 2008.

  1. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

    One of the things I hear kicked around about men with strong women in their lives is that the woman influences the way they (the man) thinks so much that such men cannot be expected to think for themselves. You have heard this with such famous couples as former President Clinton and his wife, President Obama and his wife and you see this same kind of criticism being leveled at men in all walks of life who have strong independent women in their lives. I'm experiencing this myself by some in my world who believe that I'm not strong enough to stand on my own without checking with the wife before I make critical decisions. Yes, my wife is strong minded, who will speak her mind and give her opinion and will jump in your ass (not literally) if she thinks you are full of it. I say what is wrong about including your wife or trusted girl friend in decisions that may affect your life? If she is your wife I say the more she is involved the better. True, my wife does have a say of what goes on in my life as she should. I'm quick to point out that I do not have all the answers. I must say in a lot of ways women are far smarter in a lot of things than us men. So it does not hurt my feelings if I must ask for advice from my wife. As men here, does it hurt your ego to ask for your woman's advice in maters that can affect you both? Or do you still believe that men should make all the decisions regardless how the woman in your life feel about it?
     
  2. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    Keep the woman in her damn place. She makes decsions about the dinner menu and the color of the curtains. The important decisions are for the MAN to make. That way when he screws up, he'll know whose fault it was.
     
  3. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

    Decision

    So Moskvichka, it makes me less of a MAN by including my wife in critical decisions that could affect us both? is this not why so many marriages never make it because of one in the relationship holds a complete monopoly on the other in terms of the partnership? I thought that is what the marriage relationships are "partnerships" and not sexual domination of one over the other? Please clarify.
     
  4. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    I was being sarcastic of course...

    The answer to the question lies in the vows that a couple take at the altar. Both will love, honor and cherish the other. Includes decision making. I don't see how a caring husband would not be interested in the wife's opinion, and vice versa.

    Goes without saying.
     
  5. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    How is your screenname BlackTiger2005 but you joined in 2003? You jumped 2 years ahead?
     
  6. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

    Decision

    Moskvichka, I use the year 2005 because it was a good year in that I met my current wife. It was the year that my world changed forever. Thank you for the inquiry. I accept your response. I came from a divorced family. My late father was very dominating over my mother when I was young. I swore to myself that if I ever became a husband my wife will have equal say in our partnership. For me we are doing much together from planning our future business, taking activities together and forming a relationship that we both can grow from together. If god wills it for us I wish for us both to grow old together. We are young and we have so much to do together. Thank you Moskvichka for the response, Merry Christmas and have a very prosperous New Year.
     
  7. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    Merry Christmas to you too, Tiger, and may the Lord bless you and your wonderful wife!:)

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  8. Tinkerbell

    Tinkerbell New Member

    I love it! :smt026:smt026
     
  9. Serendipity

    Serendipity New Member

    I don't think it makes you less of a man to include your wife in decisions that have to do with the home or the two of you, but there are those men who can't make a move or decide which socks to wear or what to eat for breakfast without their wife's two cents or approval and that to me is going overboard.

    The man should be independent and secure enough to make decisions as well without constant checking with wife or anyone else first. I find a lot of the times that women start to rule the husband or vice versa and that is one thing about marriage that scares the shit out of me. Some just get to domineering and whichever, man or woman, one has to put the foot down at some point.

    Then again I question marriage or even relationships, in that I mean as I see it, we go from asking our parents for permission when we're kids, we finally grow up become adults and we have to ask our husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend for permission or check with them first. I just don't get that; if I want to go out with friends or even by myself I should be able to without checking in and/or spelling out my whole itinerary.
     
  10. jaisee

    jaisee Well-Known Member

    If God wanted the womans opinion to count he wouldn't have given man the genetic capability to tune her out at birth. Seriously, this is not a learned skill... this comes as natural to us as belching and peeing on the toilet seatal-flooral area.
     
  11. Athena

    Athena New Member

    oh no you didn't. :toimonster:
     
  12. jaisee

    jaisee Well-Known Member

    Er., I'm on my laptop... that was obviously a typo.
     
  13. Athena

    Athena New Member

    :smt104 :smt037
     
  14. jaisee

    jaisee Well-Known Member

    Yeah.
     
  15. Tinkerbell

    Tinkerbell New Member

    Genetic, huh? Wow, well if you can't help it, don't get upset when we say "I told you so"!
     
  16. Serendipity

    Serendipity New Member

    You forgot farting :smt033
     
  17. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    Some men need a woman that will allow them to be #1 without much fight.

    Some men don't mind being the man but they don't need to talk about it..they allow their actions to speak for them.

    Some men are afraid to be the man and would rather allow their women to do the job for them.

    Some men don't even think about who the "man" is and who the "woman" is and what it represents. They understand that marriage is a partnership and that each partner has strengths and weaknesses and that they should focus on what they do best to help the house run most efficiently and smoothly.
     
  18. Moskvichka

    Moskvichka New Member

    I pick the last one!:smt023
     
  19. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member


    Awesome! :smt058
     
  20. kuntrygirl30

    kuntrygirl30 New Member

    cosign!
     

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