This is very sad

He's trying too hard.

 

As are a shitoad of Christian fundamentalists like yourself.

 

You're trying too hard to be a troll too.

 

Then he could have made his point with less...fervor and more detachment. Like you have.

 

It's what you wanted.

You got it.

Pat yourself on the back.

 

lol,about a month ago i read about how kenyan Maasai dudes use swedish chicks in order to purchase lots,and lots of "goats"

lmao

 

How?:smt017

 

Disgusting ass story. Hella messed up.

 

Let me clarify something here , i did not read about it because i do not always believe on stereotyping or what the media write (as they want you to read what you want ) as your western media don't always tell the truth about Africa, believe me.

I am living it , i see people around me doing it ... Look , i am this kind of guy who mix with other African nationalities i really find what they are doing cruel and i am not ashamed to expose it. i don't know where you from but if you are from American or southern-african , you won't be affected the way i am at the moment and i really feel bad to be an African. Trust me if my white female friends ever ask me about hooking-up with Africans , I will thell them the same thing... And i will really ask them to be very careful and never rush in mariages or babies at least for few months. I do have valid points of why certains nationalities are doing it but i won't speak about it in public. The worst thing is them leaving these women as single moms... :evil: These guys are not attracted to white women at all ...

Everydays they are a lot of white women into IR reading this forum so i am just warning them and if you look at my first post , i have advice them to make their own jugement ( as they are always exceptions) , but the majority of African brothers are playing this scams and trust me certain nationalities are expect in this unfortunately.

 

I appreciate what you are trying to do Mag.

Swazi I'm on your page too, I think it is something people are aware of and are mindful of.

Of course, the issue for women is they don't want to be seen to be judgemental and they aren't sure where the line is- between being judgemental, or savvy.

My man is from Botswana, I can't believe the amount of times people have assumed he is with me on a visa scam. They do this with little understanding of the country- or the fact that he had his permanent residency, in his own right, because of his professional qualifications. I didn't know that when we met though, and I'm glad, I wasn't so judgemental that I locked myself off to a beautiful person, and amazing country, culture and family.

However, anyone who has interaction with some African community has seen it. We all know a story of a man talking shit to a woman, tapping who he truly cares for or feels like behind her back, and leaving her with the bubba.

However, Lucifer I'm also with you man in that deceit has always been there and just takes on various forms. Caveat emptor.

Mag I can see you are being quite sweet with your post.

People should listen to their gut, and use it.

 

I'm a Nigerian living in Chicago.

So, I know of what you speak.

 

Indeed.

 

Oh, I completely missed this thread. Thanx Maghalil for bringin this up..
Because I see it all the time too.
It's not fun to go out and realize people look at you as an easy route to visa with pussy included.
I really didn't wanna think this way, but after realizing some of my african friends has done exactly that, or for worse, sells sex to middle aged women to get money for drugs and get away from having a proper job...
Sometimes I just have to work damn hard not to loose respect for the african community here.

Even a guy who was married and had kids with a swedish girl, still called me more or less a cheap slut, for even talking to black men.
There is no respect. I hate it. I can't even talk to my friends (eh, the normal friends, not the apparently drugheads..) when in a club, without seeing how the rest of the guys looks at me thinking I'm cheap and easy meat, since I have more then one male friend (yeah, the concept of "friends" as in non-sexual just ordinary friends-relationship doesn't seem to be known to these guys).
I even had a guy desperatly telling me how good he was in bed and how hard he would work to please me, how much "love" he would give me and so on, if only I married him.
And I see couples all the time, with african guys, young and good looking, and some skanky older woman.. The guys sneaking behind the back of the woman and hitting on other girls..
It's disgusting.
And no, SA is not represented in that statistics (never heard of it, never met any guy from SA that isnt here because of work or study, same with Ghana.), since it's so much easier for them to be granted a working visa then for example Gambians (waaay over represented) that actually have a harder time getting a visa because of the sextourism. I mean, I even get small emails on myspace from guys wanting to find "Love" and move here.

It bugs the shit out of me. It's really hard not to get affected by it. I don't want to be extra careful, just because of this, I want to judge everyone as an individual, but around the tenth guy going "I like you, you so beautiful, lets have babies*", you get a bit weirded out.

*translation: You aren't that skanky, look like easy to fool and my holiday visa is about to go out.

 

Scylla, after reading this post I want to go hide under my bed and NOT come out.

By the way: how in the world do you speak English so well?? Do you speak as well as you write? I'm asking because I pretty much taught myself one language (Polish) just by reading the internet, so I can read and write it well, but don't ask me to speak, because that's a different story.

 

Yeah. It makes me wanna go hide to, coz I just get burned over and over again. A couple of weeks back a guy I really really appriecate as a friend started going all "I like you, you're sweet" and all that. I would have loved to trust him on it.. BUT off course, I did some research, turns out he thinks I'm just white pussy for him to use. YAY. It's not like it amps up my respect for those guys..
Yeesh, they are really working hard on chasing my back over to dating scandie guys.
(It hasn't worked yet, but my god, I'm starting to get bitter.)

In sweden we start learning english when we are nine and continiue until we are 18. 19. I kept reading english in school 'till I was twenty and I worked some as an english teacher and been to australia for half a year., and almost everything on tv is in english.. And I like language, so I learned pretty quick. I sound ok, even though my accent is a bit of a traffic jam from everything i ever been affected with.. Still, I think my english isn't good enough, I almost always need to "write around" things because I don't know the right words. It's too simple..
Why learn polish by the way? I like that language, but I can only say things like "the dog is my new friend" and other weird things..

 

One thing I've noticed about Scandinavians is that many of them are fairly fluent in English. It helps when you start learning it when you are a kid. Would I be right to assume that it's considered a second language in many Scandinavian countries?

 

I'm not sure we have an official first even.. (everybody speaks it anyway, so it felt unnecessary to make laws about it)
The minority languages here are finnish, jugoslavian, romani and hebrew I think...

I think you could more say that it is like a second language.
I understand english way better than danish and norweigan.. And those only separate from swedish with 150 words or something.

 

Ahhh I see now. Thank you for enlightening me

 

No worries.

 

In pure terms, it can depend on the circumstances surrounding the country from whence the person came.

ie, Botswana- stable, relatively good conditions, you can have a reasonable life. Vast majority of Batswana trotting the globe are on student visas, with a generous scholarship from their government with a flight home every year to visit family. So the temptation is less though its not unheard of.


Zim- Hell, I'd nearly hardly blame a young man for wanting to get outta there on a visa scam.. Murderous dictator, cholera the new favourite. Every day I read about it in the news and I just cry, people don't need my pity, but it makes me so angry and there is just nothing I can do. To see people being bussed outta Bots to certain death is the worst, some shout, most are silent, all of them have a look of resigned hopelessness in their eyes. It just runs deep, right through them. It never fails to paralyse me with sadness and I get the worse "Western guilt".

Sometimes people fall in love, sometimes people use each other.That's life. Sometimes people use each other even when they think they love each other. Some white women like having a black man just cos they feel special, they like the attention or think they are in a hip hop clip. So in a sense, they are using him too. If it's a mututally destructive relationship, who am I to care?

You just have to be careful, no matter what. My problem has always been I have been hurt so bad before, in a different way, so was so guarded. But just woke up one day and decided just to let it go. Deep breaths, just let it go. Doesn't mean to abandon your instincts though.

Meh.. ranting.. too much on the mind.

Merry CHristmas all!