School

Just the answer Satyricon was looking for.:lol:

 

I truly believe it doesn't matter what your degree is in. Of course for some specialized fields it is definitely a necessity.

But people just want to know you have the paper that says you did it. When I was in college I had intentions of law school. But 10 years of marketing positions, steadily getting better - thats just the way it went.

 

because...???

 

Because he views school as an expensive diploma factory which should (but doesn't always) land you a good job, while you and I view it as a means of continued discovery of the world and self. Back at Rutgers I took a course called "The Black Woman" for the pure hell of it.

 

I'm studying (Corporate) Law which is one of the reasons I've been so scarce around here.

I started rather late due to taking a few odd jobs here and there before realising the amount of money and, lifestyle needed to keep me content will not come without some form of documentation stating I am qualified to get the job done. I guess it was when I took it upon myself to apply to a large financial firm in New York a few years ago and was told to come back once I’ve completed college, embarked a stumbling block I wasn’t prepared for.

I would imagine it is like every employer requesting a resume these days. Of course there are some that are not worthy (Yes, that is my snobbery shining through the rafters) to request one based on the job title but they ask nonetheless.

So, I am studying for four years. I will graduate in 2011. The benefit of studying Law is opening the door to more options in the event I choose not to pursue such a profession. I plan to use my other licenses I acquired previous to college as leverage to command the amount of income I am aiming for.

Cheers!

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with going to college, but I agree it's overrated. So before you take offense, hear me through.

I agree, I am personally acquainted with more than one millionaire, none of whom have a great deal of education. It has been proven statistically that 80% of millionaires have only a high school diploma.

When few people had college educations it set people apart from the crowd, nowadays everybody tries to get a college education and so there are a lot of college graduates flipping burgers at MacDonald's.

That's the only reason I would personally try to get a higher level diploma, which I don't have.

I have a graduate degree in being married and raising kids.
I have a associates in home economics, a masters in manipulation,
and "bachelor" in Iraq.

I think I'm doing pretty good.

I'm self taught and make more money now than most of my college grad friends. I also know that if I want real information I can get it in many places. I don't need to pay someone who has no experience to teach me how to be successful at something they have never done.

I would love to go to school to study literature and history, I would also enjoy some study in anthropology, but I would do it because I'm interested in the information, not because I'll get a good job.

 

I wouldn't have thought...

 

I'm graduating with my bachelors in IT next saturday. I'd like to eventually get into Analysis and Design. Computers are really fun to work with, and the possibilities seem endless. Hopefully i can find a decent job soon after graduation, despite the poor state of the economy.

 

What kind of work would you like to do?

 

Hmm... I have to say that the discussion about school/uni being overrated feels a bit far off.
It's hard to aquire a good analyzing critical mind without higher level education, and it does help if you want the more interesting jobs.. I mean, I could surely become an interaction designer and a writer w/o uni, but it would have taken years and years, and it would have been way too late when I finally got there...

And you know, doctor, lawyer, forensics, industrial designers, computer scientists, psychiatrist, historian, political analyzers.. It feels a bit safer if they have a higher ed.

 

Oh well im making up for it now lol

My patience back then was pretty low, but believe it or not those grades arent the worse, considering at that point in life 10 yrs ago it was an effort to pick up a pen, i really was a little cow for my parents lol

Ive always been more of a hands on pragmatic, passed a theory and driving test with full marks first time at age of 17, love hands on stuff got certificates in Chainsaw handling, exsplosive construction nail guns, Pat testing (electrical testing) for plugged appliances, pasma alloy access tower i loved all that stuff.

OH and i have an IQ of 146 apparently, but we all know iq is not about school smarts, does anyone else know what theres is ?

 

Personally, I believe education to be very important, but they do have somewhat of a point insofar as the the fallacy that a college degree is a guarantee of success and social mobility is concerned. There are many people who pursue undergraduate and in some cases graduate level degrees at present because the new service-based economy has essentially destroyed the ability of most young people in the U.S. to support a family comfortably with a high school diploma and no higher education.

Thirty years ago, the largest employer in our country was General Motors, and the average union salary for a worker with only a high school diploma was $17.50 an hour (which is over sixty dollars an hour adjusted for inflation). Today, the nation's largest employer is Wal Mart, who pays its workers the paltry sum of less than $10.00 an hour without benefits. As the result of a generation long assault by Conservatives on the middle class and due to ridiculous trade policies that have sent everything save for service industry jobs overseas, most young people turn to college in order to attempt to escape the fate of flipping burgers or working a cash register. The problem here is two fold: 1. There simply aren't enough jobs to keep pace with the steadily increasing number of college graduates, and 2. The salary for an average worker with a bachelor's degree has not even kept pace with inflation. That's not to mention the overcrowded classes even in some elite universities, decreasing quality of curricula and instruction in many institutions, and the fact that the now diluted value of a bachelor's degree has caused a replication of the same phenomena in graduate schools across the nation.

Essentially, the university system as for as I can tell has became another feeder for the financial and debt services industry to get their claws in people in order to exploit them. Many young people incur massive amounts of debt during university whether they finish their degrees or not, and will spend a good chunk of their lives paying off the debt without anything to show for it.

With that being said, universities, more often than not, do an excellent job of crafting minds and helping the vast majority of qualified matriculants do a much better job of realizing their potential through the curriculum, instruction and interaction with other students than they could have done on their own. Additionally, the research that is conducted in these institutions is generally beneficial for the collective good.

This is true. Anytime that you are dealing with a highly skilled professional (the true meaning of this word has been completely and utterly bastardized in the past few decades) it is imperative for your own good that they've had the proper education and/or certification.

 

Well, studied Mechanical engineering, graduating in 2005. I then proceeded to do a masters in Aerospace Engineering graduating in late 2006. The idea being that I was going to work as a formula one motorsport engineer(employ a lot of Aerospace engineers), but didnt quite work out because I didnt bother applying for an internship while at University..and thus didn't have any relevant experience. Working for an engineering company at the moment, Its okay I guess.Anyway when I grow up want to possibly start a business..and be rich!

 

because it just is, it's just a ploy to make you waste money for "higher learning", well you can learn more from your local library or through direct on hands training. Graduate racked up in debt take crappy entry level jobs for years because you need to pay off your debt gaining experience never putting that degree to use.

I have learned more from my local library/bookstore etc. than I have in my 4 years of university. Of course you need to go to school to land a good job, but not like anything I learned in University will ever help me in life in anything.

 

So true, I am trying not to think about the debt I will have racked up when I graduate. By the way your avatar is adorable!

 

You need money to make money......its really that simple

 

WHO TOLD YOU THIS???......WHERE did you take this test??

 

well,,,,i hate to admit this,youngblood, but youre right,,,,,you personally havent learned much in university.

But generally speaking I doubt school in itself is a scam. It is only what you make out of it.

I've met some law students who didnt know anymore about the law than your average "street hustler". Likewise ive known street huslers that could have made something of thesmselves had they attended college.

So like I said....you learn only what you want to learn. if you want to learn how to run a business. You can do it by yourself, and you can do it within a year. Every other thing after that cmes from experience. It comes with years of being in the business that will truly make you a "businessman" ....

However higher learning education will open MANY doors. Employers will look at you completely differently if you have a degree because it shows you are "DEDICATED" ......FOCUSED, it shows ambition and perseverance. Which are "IMPERATIVE" in the work force

 

This man is keeping it all the way real.

 

My IQ is 118... pretty average. That was like 2 years ago though. A lot of people do these dodgy online tests that are inaccurate. I remember my stupid ass ex did one and he thought his IQ was like 150-160 or something and he was honestly a complete IDIOT.