Do people here think we should keep our beliefs to ourselves?

I can't speak for everybody else, but me, i don't wanna hear the god thing.

I'll sum up my beliefs like this. "I don't believe in shit I don't see, so don't ask me bout g-o-d, cause my religion is reality"-Natas

 

Jeez, I go to a wedding and I miss alot!!

I really don't know what this thread is in reference to, but I'll say this: the bad thing about the internet is that people don't need to ever back down. There are many, many times on this forum alone where fights broke out and no one wanted to back down, and in my opinion, the fights should have been taken offline at some point. No one needs to read it, ya know? And when you are fighting with a faceless person in cyberspace, you don't have that switch in your brain going off saying enough is enough.

Just because it's over the internet, doesn't mean that no one's feelings are getting hurt. It's good and it's bad. It airs out alot of grievances, but also doesn't allow the person saying the bad stuff to see the face of the people who have to read it. :-(

We would do well to remember that there are real humans behind these words on this and all forums and that if you aren't willing to say it to their face, you shouldn't hide behind your keyboard and say it online.

That's my $0.02.

 

But... doesn't it affect you longterm? Memory and all?

 

Who are you talking to? LOL.

 

To DH about weed, sorry.:weedman:

 

LOL! Okay, that makes sense! :smt023 Sorry, I've been doing a little drinking and it's late.

 

Well, I've been smoking pretty regularly since I was 18, so it's been about 6 years now and honestly my brain functions pretty well. My memory has always been horrible, so I can't blame the weed for it. And it really depends on which study you read as to what the stats are on memory and stuff. I read a study once that compared two groups of college students, one group smoked every day, and the other abstained completely. The group that smoked only scored an average of 3 points lower on a standardized test than they had before they smoked every day, and then, after abstaining for a few months, the scores went back to normal. It was interesting.

I like it because it's not addictive, you can't die from and overdose because the amount it would take to OD is stupidly large and impossible to consume if you just smoke it or eat it, the side effects, as Katt Williams says, are "Hungry, happy, and sleepy" and it works better than prescription anti depressants without killing my sex drive. Not to mention a few studies done recently have actually linked the inactive ingredients in marijuana to cancer prevention.

Interesting stuff. It does kill brain cells, but so does alcohol, and I believe (not sure, though) that if it kills more than drinking it's only a marginal difference, if any. It's also much safer than drinking, and it doesn't make you sick if you have too much. It just makes you cough and go to sleep *L* Which is why I don't do anything important when I smoke. I get lazy when I'm high! *L*

 

Nope! I'm nerdy enough, too! Yes, I love poetry, I think it is fascinating. There's so many different ways to write poetry and so many different things to write poetry about. So many things a single "po-em" can convey depending on who's reading it. Just like painting, I would say. Or any art form really. I love it all. Yes!! It's the shiznit!!!!! All of it! Yea, I remember the first time I read the lines in your signature, I was like, "Wow! She's the shit! I like her." Heh :mrgreen: :smt023

 

That is interesting stuff. I remember when I was 13-16 I "kind of" smoked weed but I never smoked enough to get high. I just didn't want to. Then a few years ago I took a few hits off my b/f's blunt but I didn't get high then either. WELL, probably about a couple years ago my boyfriend and I were having problems and a friend of mine who smokes weed regularly suggested that we go to her place after work and smoke weed. I figured, what the hell? Anyway, to make a long story short. It was the worst experience of my entire life! At first, I didn't feel anything (like what might be the affects of smoking weed). Then all of a sudden I couldn't feel anything!! I felt so sick (okay, so I felt that, heh). I couldn't focus my vision on anything and if I tried, it made me feel sicker. My friend, she was talking a mile a minute and it was like the more she talked, the sicker I felt. I couldn't think. I couldn't move. I felt trapped inside my body. I felt dead, but conscious. I wanted to cry. I felt like a helpless prisoner in my body. I went into her bathroom because I didn't feel well. (Nothing happened.) I couldn't tell if anything was happening anyway. I felt like I couldn't control my bodily functions even if I wanted to. Then the weirdest part is I felt like I actually was doing something (#2) on the toilet, but there was no evidence. Nothing in the toilet bowl or on the toilet paper. Anyway, it was traumatizing. I just wanted to go back to feeling "normal" again so bad. I just prefer being able to think, see, feel, grasp things, and control my body movements and functions, heh. So, I was afraid I was going to do something humiliating (throw up, shit my pants, piss my pants, etc) so I ended up leaving (to do it in the privacy of my own home) and I walked. Somehow, I actually walked the couple of blocks to my house. And by some miracle I made it there safe and sound. Threw myself on my bed and fell asleep. Vowing to never ever do that again. The whole time, my friend was just fine. Just another "smoking weed event" like she's always had. I never ended up "getting sick" or anything. Just felt that way. Anyways, so much for "to make a long story short" huh? Sheesh...

 

I have never experienced anything like that when smoking, nor have I heard any horror stories like that. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience, though...I wonder why? It could be it had been laced with something else, or that you're allergic and hadn't smoked enough prior to affect you. I would say another option is that you may have "psyched yourself into a bad trip" but I don't know. It's a possibility, but you didn't mention anything about being scared of it or anything so I'd say that is less likely.

 

Ok, sexual orientation is not a choice. You can choose not to follow it, but it isn't a choice.

To stop offending people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun
there you go, now you don't have to say it. zie/hir is quite commonly used.

Religion is only fine as long as you are aware what it is, when it is and so on, and when you respect others who don't have one, or are part of another religion.
I've spent my life with christians doing this and that, or hearing weird discussions where people deny evolution or stuff like that, and I'm sick and tired of christians thinking they can assume that a: they are always right, because they believe in God and b: that their faith is comparable to falsifiable scientific theories.

So yes, religion is ok, as long as the religious shows respect and tolerance.

 

Hah. I used to really like Natas, I have an Esham CD creepin around from years back.

Nice quote though.

 

If you can chose not to, then you also chose to. Proving my point.

That isn't even English, so it is not commonly used here, accept in addressing groups where you don't know what the gender of the person being addressed is.

Is it fine for non religious persons to not respect the religions of those of us that do believe in something? Funny how non religious persons, because they are the minority, scream about lack of respect but then expect religious people to be quite about their beliefs. Just because there are more of us doesn't mean we have to be more quiet individually.

Again you need to check the definition of science, evolution is a not verifiable fact, it is also a theory. Some say it is a religion too.

OK, does respect and tolerance mean that we should not voice any opinions that make others uncomfortable, or may be upsetting to some, simply because they have a religious undertone? Even within religions we disagree, are we to keep that quite too? Why is it that we can voice our disagreement about all other aspect of life, but when it comes to religion people want us to keep silent?

Example: My Dad is a Christian and doesn't believe it's OK for me to marry for the second time while my ex is alive. He thinks I should be re-united with my ex-husband. I think he's wrong, but if he really loves me, I'm glad he tells me his belief, because if he didn't and I made a "morally wrong" choice without his opinion to check out, he may have done me worse. As it is, I will remarry when the time comes, I don't agree with him. But I have researched his opinion completely. His Love and tolerance is to allow me to do that. He isn't expected to agree.

Now: If he tried to come to my wedding with a shotgun so as to prevent it, then I would say he was out of line. However if he doesn't attend because he doesn't agree, I'll just have to accept his decision. I won't be angry or hurt over it either.

 

Natas is cool, but I only like certain tracks. Esham's style is always changing, and most of it I don't like. My favorite tracks are "We Almost Lost Detroit"(that's where the quote is from) and "Midnight".

 

to me religion is something private, thats how I was raised. Even the question if someone was religious is too private for a small talk conversation.

I know that this is different in other cultures.
People who talk about their religion too much - well, I dont fell comfortable with them, because for me its a private matter.

 

Most of us were raised to think talk of sex was private, I'm just asking for the sake of this forum, do you feel talk of religion is more taboo than talk of sex?

 

Yes.

 

yes, somehow it is. It is closer to my heart, it is more fragile. It is less talked about in the media and within my friends and family, so I am not used to talking about that.
as well, people tend to be more tolerant when they talk about sexual matters.
People who talk about their believes often use that for emphasizing that they are right or that they found the one and only way to see the world, people who talk about sex dont do that usually.

I find it interesting to talk about religion with you as you clearly have a totally different point of seeing/ interpreting religion than I have and it s always goos learning new things and exchanging positions.

But I dont see why religion must be a argument when we welcomed that french shemale. she/he did not coose to be like he/she is. God made him/her that way and that is okay.

 

I guess so.

 

If God made him that way, why does he need to change it surgically??

I'm sorry you think it's more taboo than sex, it's an important subject, and should be discussed, because if there really is a hell, and many people are headed that way, then we do them a dis-service in not discussing it. If I'm wrong and everything ends at death, then what difference did it make, if we live a better life because there maybe consequences?