TRUMP Thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    It hurts a lot. It's like the Tories return to the US in the person of Oswald Mosley or Enoch Powell.
     
  2. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    Trump, Who Claimed He Knew Nothing About Project 2025, Reverses Course


    Donald Trump wants a Project 2025 architect to play a starring role in his Cabinet.

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    Source : The New Republic.com

    Donald Trump repeatedly told America he had “nothing to do” with Project 2025. But now, he’s welcoming its architect into his Cabinet with open arms.

    Russ Vought, who was deeply involved in the creation of Project 2025 and wrote an entire chapter in the right-wing playbook, is being strongly considered for an upcoming Cabinet position, according to several sources who spoke with ABC News. Vought has already begun the vetting process and has been seen at Mar-a-Lago meeting with Trump’s team.

    Vought—a former lobbyist, self-described Christian nationalist, and director of the Office of Management and Budget in Trump’s first term—authored a chapter in the 922-page MAGA extremist master plan titled “Executive Office of the President” for Project 2025’s “Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise” section. The chapter serves as “a comprehensive policy guide for the next conservative U.S. president.”

    Vought isn’t the only Project 2025 alum being floated for a crucial role in the Trump Cabinet. Gene Hamilton, who wrote a chapter about how the Justice Department needed a “top to bottom overhaul” because it is “captured by an unaccountable bureaucratic managerial class and radical Left ideologues who have embedded themselves throughout its offices and components,” has been seriously floated for an important legal team position. Trump has also nominated Project 2025 contributor and free-speech “warrior” Brendan Carr to serve as Federal Communications Commission chair.

    On the campaign trail, Trump had tried to distance himself from Project 2025, particularly after it became a focus point for Democrats. “This was a group of people that got together, they came up with some ideas, I guess some good, some bad, but it makes no difference. I have nothing to do [with it],” Trump stated during his nationally televised debate with Vice President Kamala Harris. His loyal transition team co-chair Howard Lutnick described the project as an “absolute zero” and “radioactive.”

    And yet here we are, with Vought, Carr, and Hamilton cozying back up to the president-elect, who was surely lying to America throughout his campaign. The skeleton plan for the far-right takeover is coming alive.



     
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  3. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Is anyone surprised?
     
  4. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    No one actually living in the real world is.
     
  5. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    That being said, I'm getting burned out on people having this irrational fear of him. My girlfriend is looking to escape to Europe. He''s clearly expressed some dangerous views regarding elections, strategic alliances, economic policy and more, but he isn't a monarch. He may try some extralegal measures, but people should remember that the capitalist class is not unified in support of him and he won't be able to just wave a magic wand and do whatever. The Senate has already dealt him a blow by choosing a senator other than his preferred pick as Majority Leader. These power maximizing individuals are not going to fight to get elected to a position and then vote to weaken it and diminish the power they struggled to get. Also, people should remember that the military told the other legislators in the constitutionally mandated line of succession that they would not support an unconstitutional power grab. And many of these political actors who have opposed him are on the right wing. The best antidote to a Trump presidency is organizing, not fleeing in terror. If it gets to the point where he's exacting revenge on people, etc, then I will be the first to acknowledge that and tell everyone to head for the exits.
     
  6. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member


    It's finally time for a legitimate grassroots third party option that is actually about governing for the whole country. The two party system ( as well as what passes for third party options) we currently have is too fixated on catering to only a specific demographic (White working class) and grabbing power in order to line their pockets at the expense of everyone else. Unfortunately Trump and his lackeys will need to fuck shit up to the point that people who actually want to govern for the good of all organize and create a solid alternative against what's to come in the next four years.
     
  7. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Agreed, but I want to see an effort to change election laws first. That's necessary to make a third party even viable. The fact that the Greens, Libertarians and others aren't focusing on that demonstrates to me that they aren't really serious about developing an alternative to the two-party system.
     
  8. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Trump always lies.
     
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  9. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    And he has more in store.
     
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  11. Soulthinker

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  16. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    TRUTH!!! It'll be interesting once the low income (or even working class) supporters realize the "wealth" won't come to them.
     
  17. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    I read the FT Weekend edition, and few of its reporters, despite it being a financial paper, are optimistic about Trump's effect on the US or global economies.
     
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