Ex-President Donald Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by blackbull1970, Apr 30, 2017.

  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    And so he should have, you know very well Obama would have fired him, too. And he would have had his taxes audited he would have had his email hacked like he did reporters that spoke badly about him. Obama was a bad man when people defied him, he routinely sicced the FBI and the IRS on them.
     
  2. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    “You have to be like a lion and a fox. The fox is smart enough to recognize traps, and the lion is strong enough to scare away the wolves. Be like a lion and a fox, and no one will ever beat you”

    ~ Carlo Gambino

    Yeah that sounds just like Dotard. LOL
     
  3. Tony Soprano

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  4. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    That's a life. Every normal person knows he runs circles around TDS libs lazy lives. He does more in a day while they're still in bed bitching, 'Mom, where's my shit?!!'

    Xi knew in December it was infectious. He said nothing.
    On February 14, XI signed a goods and tariffs deal with President Trump, still knowing then that it was a person to person virus, but said nothing.

    Then Xi Jinping unleashed into the U.S almost million Chinese Nationals, many from Wuhan, into our four major airports, he encouraged them to celebrate Chinese New year in America -- he told nobody that the virus was transferable.

    So the meme is a lie on our President, in fact, on Jan 29, he ordered the restriction of Chinese Nationals on flights from China but it was too late, because lousy liberal leaders defied him like they always do at the detriment of our country, and allowed people to continue to come in unchecked.

    Now it was Obama who golfed as we endured the h1N1 outbreak

    Obama Played Golf the Same Day His Administration Declared H1N1 a Public Health Emergency

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  5. Tony Soprano

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  6. Tony Soprano

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  7. Bliss

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    He was asked a direct question from a reporter if "he should stop tweeting" and he was explaining that that was his form of communication and that in fact, Facebook it was equally as important and why he's number one on Facebook.

    Thank God, because the lying liberal media make up lies all the time about our President, lying about things he never said, or they manipulate his words, they deliberately edit, t twist his words, or say "a source told them" .

    The lying liberal media is going to be held accountable in November and the Dems are going to lose by a landslide.
     
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  9. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    Nah, modern dictatorships are all about eliminating people considered threats, maintaining loyalties among your inner circle by threatening their families and making sure your OWN family is involved in the ruling structure. And preserving close ties with the military.

    I don't know why you think raw intellect is necessary to become a dictator. Men like Stalin and Hitler were masters of human psyche who understood how violence and fear opened the doors to power.

    Saddam Hussein wasn't brilliant. He was a thug who seized and held power through brutality and murder.
    Kim Jung Un is no great mind either. He was born to power and maintains it through military loyalties and murdering his rivals.

    You can't really compare being a dictator of a country to being a mafia boss. There are too many links to power in a country that are benefited by a autocratic strongman leading the government.

    Trump knows what it takes to become a dictator and every day he takes incremental steps to consolidate his power. Not saying Trump is going to be successful, but right now he's probably the most powerful POTUS we've ever had.
     
  10. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    You realize you're listening to a mafioso who's trying to rep himself. There isn't much sophistication when the core element of your business model is murdering your rivals.

    Trump spent much of his adult life directly and indirectly rubbing elbows with actual NY and NJ organized crime figures.
    And he knows enough to find out those who are loyal to him and eliminate those who aren't by getting them out of government.

    He's got one entire political party afraid to speak out against him, a Supreme Court with a conservative majority and a third of the country okay if Trump became president for life.
     
  11. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Your critical thinking skills are sorely lacking. You read any kind of drivel on the internet that makes Trump look good/Obama bad and you eat it right up.

    President Obama declared H1N1 a public health emergency before anyone in the United States died

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...ent-obama-declared-h1n1-public-health-emerge/


     
  12. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    You're delusional. You must don't know about Carlo. He didn't have to "rep" himself at all. Politics play a limited role in dictatorships. The mafia is a dictatorship and Carlo was one of the best to ever do it. The man was undefeated.

    Not much sophistication?? You don't think murdering your core rivals is a core element to dictatorships??
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  13. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    How about you address your sorely lacking critical thinking skills.

    That quick speech Obama gave before he golfed was that he was putting a cabinet together, NOT that he was declaring a National Emergency.
    That day, he told people to not worry, just wash your hands and that's pretty much it...he did nothing different than what President Trump did prior to declaring a National Emergency.

    Again, Obama did NOT declare A NATIONAL EMERGENCY until 6 months later and thousands of people had died.

    So no, AB, this wasn't "drivel I ate up" because I followed the CDC timeline of everything that was done under his administration from the first report of the H1N1 outbreak until his N.E declaration 6 months later.

    Here, if you don't believe me...

    Obama declares H1N1 emergency
    October 26, 2009 8:47 a.m. EDT

    https://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/24/h1n1.obama/index.html
     
  14. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    Since when is murder sophisticated??
     
  15. Tony Soprano

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  16. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Read this again. LOL

    What do you think happens in the mafia?

    The mafia is a government within a government. With that they have even more threats and it often requires even more savvy than dictators that have their own countries to govern.

    You're talking to someone that has studied both. I don't make assumptions.

    You consider Dotard a master of the human psyche?

    Saddam was a crafty strong man, you weren't paying attention there. His biggest fault was not being a good military strategist but how he attained power and kept it was savvy.

    Kin Jung Un is a false equivalence. His entire country has been brainwashed for many years. That's what religion does. It makes things easier for the ruling dictator.
     
  17. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Dude dictators do it.

    You really think murdering your enemies is that easy? They can kill you. Sure Beavis and Butthead can kill but there is a lot more than just murdering people.
    There are many more factors. You have to get close to them for one. If you kill them before the right timing their allies could kill you. There is power dynamics, spy games, strategies, developing loyalties of others. ect....among politics and money.

    If it was as simple as murder then the top hit men would always run the mafia, they didn't.

    If you understood everything that Lucky had to do to become chairman of the mafia and reconstruct it and run the national crime syndicate, and run New York like a king. You would look back at this post and laugh.
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  18. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Again, you don't READ.

    Obama declared H1N2 a PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY on April 26, 2009, when there were only 20 swine cases nationwide and no deaths.
    A couple days later he made a request to Congress for $7 bil in aid for a vaccine and research funding.

    H1N1 was declared a global pandemic by the WHO on June 11, 2009.

    Obama called H1N1 a public health emergency SIX WEEKS before the Word Health Organization called it a pandemic.

    6 months later, Obama declared H1N1 a national emergency after 1000 Americans had died.

    Regardless, what the fuck does ANY of this have to do with Trump and his response to the corona virus??

    If Trump hadn't been running around earlier claiming COVID19 was a hoax perpetrated by Dems to hurt his reelection chances, people right now wouldn't be so critical of him.

    Trump is the POTUS. He's the ONLY one responsible for finding a solution.
     
  19. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Just saying, running a country without the luxury of murdering your political enemies is much harder than running a criminal syndicate.

    I feel like you're elevating the mafia and organized crime into something they weren't.

    They were nowhere near as powerful or influential as the drug cartels in Central and South America, which basically run some countries.
     
  20. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Are you saying you can be a DICTATOR without murdering people????

    Give me one example of that
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