Covid-19 Central

You are really acting like this is Ebola. Can't consume for how long? Not long enough for rich people to care.

And one rich lawyer omg. Every rich person much be shaking in their boots by now. Hell im not even shaking my damn self. I just want there to be an expert in the electronics labs sometimes like before this fucking virus.

 

“People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic: that is, when they are the sickest.”

COVID-19 has a roughly fourteen day incubation period, and one of the challenges that healthcare providers face is that, if tested too early, the current tests for the infection can return a false-negative.

“Based on what we know now, we believe this virus spreads mainly from person to person, among close contact, which is defined as about six feet, through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes,” Nancy Messonnier, M.D., Director at the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases said today during a CDC briefing. “People are thought to be most contagious when they are most symptomatic: that is, when they are the sickest.”

Meanwhile, however, the biggest risk for most people still isn’t COVID-19 at all. H1N1, aka Influenza A, has seen a sudden rise in numbers of infections in the US this season, in line with 2018’s “severe” rating. So far there have been 250,000 hospitalizations, and 14,000 deaths.

 

I thought I had read your population was 68 million, so if its 80 million, that bodes to a smaller number of infection per millions.

So you had two people die so far...
(or 3)

Health authorities confirmed the first two coronavirus (COVID-19)-related fatalities in North Rhine-Westphalia state on Monday, March 9. The patients, an 89-year-old woman and a 78-year-old man, died in the city of Essen and the district of Heinsberg respectively. As of Tuesday, March 10, 1,224 COVID-19 have been confirmed nationwide.


An 89 year old woman and a 78 year old man whom both also had underlying health issues.

So you think you should be so alarmed that a country should want to shut down in response?

You said that hospital personnel could not get face masks... And I told you you actually can, anyone can go online right now and buy face masks.

Then you said they are the wrong type of face masks to protect you... And I'm telling you these are the face masks that are in the hospitals for nurses to wear. I have two right from the hospital ER (when you walk in or out, anyone from staff to patients can take from a box to use), and I can take a picture if you like...

Then you linked me to an article about a doctor treating patience with covid-19, and he's wearing the very masks that I showed you available online. So obviously they are the same ones, even if they don't keep out the virus.




As for the article, in countries like Italy, Iran, Turkey, Greece, Cuba, U.K, etc where their health care is run by the Government, unfortunately, life and death decisions are made all the time for many illnesses. This happened with Ebola, also.
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However in America we still have an abundance of (private) hospitals, so we can handle a crisis.

This overreaction is just proving that you can bring America to its knees by hyping up something that has barely taken the lives of anyone.

This isn't about dismissing those who have died but your reaction has to be proportionate. This is going to ruin America not because of sickness, but by crashing our economy and then you're going to start seeing really sick people because people are going to lose their jobs, they're going to lose their health care, homes, cars, they're going to get sick with stress and worry... AND STILL people are going to be dying from the flu.

So the phobic response is ridiculous. The only good thing coming out of it is dirty buggers are now hopefully washing their hands, which makes me ecstatic.

 

The lawyer in critical condition in New Rochelle was an extremely, overworked, overstressed human with a low immune system, his wife said. No one else in his family (including her), has the virus, even though once his diagnosis was confirmed, she said they shuttered their blinds, turned off the internet and TV and supported each other.

She said she hopes he makes a full recovery, and that he's a fighter.

 

My point was he's the owner of a firm in NYC and he got sick also made a shit ton of people sick

 

Well, it's funny that you say he made a "shit ton of people sick" because one newspaper said he directly and indirectly infected 28 people, but they only name his wife and 2 kids and his neighbor and his wife and kids. And they say he got it from someone in Miami.

Yet his own wife says she or they are not sick:
"Other than Lawrence no one else in my family has been sick other than a slight cough."

So what gives?

 

Yeah it works like the flu but obviously more challenges. Being a germophobe I personally would hope all of this will cause people to be more cleanly and mindful, but I have some doubts; when this has pass they will probably go back to being careless and unsanitary.

 

Meet The Billion-Dollar Family Company That Makes Purell

(Long but good read)

Jerry and Goldie Lippman cofounded Gojo in Akron, Ohio, in 1946.



Panic buying is one of the most visible symptoms of coronavirus hysteria, with crazed shoppers emptying grocery store and pharmacy shelves of everything from pasta to thermometers. Perhaps the hardest item to find? Purell, America’s most popular hand sanitizer.

What most don’t know is that Purell is the cornerstone of a 74-year-old family-owned business in Ohio that makes all types of soaps, sanitizers and disinfectants. Called Gojo Industries, it has about 25% of the U.S. hand sanitizer market and generated more than $370 million in revenue in 2018, according to IBISWorld. Forbes estimates the company is 100% owned by the Kanfer family and is worth at least $1 billion.

While it might be hard for now to find Purell at a local pharmacy, there should be no Purell shortages, the company insists. (Gojo answered general questions through a spokesperson, but would not answer questions about the Kanfer family nor make any family member available for comment.) Gojo’s factories, two in Ohio and one in France, are running at full capacity to ensure it can meet the “substantial increase in demand,” says Gojo Industries spokesperson Samantha Williams. Gojo’s “demand surge preparedness team,” which has helped keep production levels humming during past viral outbreaks like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in 2003 and the H1N1 “swine flu” in 2009, has been working overtime to bring additional capacity online.


The current demand for Purell is “on the higher end of the spectrum, but not unprecedented,” says Williams. But that’s not how it feels out on the streets. A manager at a Duane Reade in downtown Manhattan says the store had been sold out of Purell for four days and didn’t expect a shipment until the weekend while another Duane Reade in Queens is sold out indefinitely. In a Costco in Lawrence, Long Island, a new shipment of hygiene and cleaning products delivered Thursday morning was gone within an hour. “It’s panic buying,” says Sonia, an employee at the Long Island Costco. “This is usually one of the slowest times of the year in terms of sales.”

Unable to procure brand-name hand sanitizer (which is just an alcohol-based cleaner), people are quickly discovering substitutes. The internet is awash in do-it-yourself potions with ingredients like aloe vera gel and rubbing alcohol, while Tito’s vodka felt compelled to announce that its vodka, which is 40% alcohol, wasn’t strong enough to kill coronavirus (the Feds recommend at least 60%). Local governments are scrambling. On Monday, New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo announced that the state would use convict labor to manufacture its own hand sanitizer.


The spectacle is all the more fantastic because it’s not at all clear that Purell, or any other hand sanitizer, can keep people safe. Hand sanitizer is regulated by the Food and Drug Administration and the agency has strict rules about promoting the use of these products against viruses or mentioning specific organisms by name. And Gojo Industries has recently fallen afoul of those very rules.

For the last couple of years, Purell had been marketing its hand sanitizer on its website and social media as a defense for the flu, norovirus and maybe even the Ebola virus. The regulator sent Gojo a warning letter on January 17, 2020, demanding that the company stop marketing its hand sanitizers with unsubstantiated claims.

“[The] FDA is currently not aware of any adequate and well-controlled studies demonstrating that killing or decreasing the number of bacteria or viruses on the skin by a certain magnitude produces a corresponding clinical reduction in infection or disease caused by such bacteria or virus,” the letter stated. Gojo, in response to the letter, wrote on its website that it has updated its marketing.

(Three generations)

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Gojo was founded in 1946 by Goldie and Jerry Lippman. During World War II, Goldie worked as a supervisor in a rubber factory in Akron, Ohio, which manufactured life rafts and other products. At the end of each shift, Goldie noticed that workers had a hard time cleaning graphite and carbon black off their hands and resorted to dipping their digits into harsh chemicals like kerosene and benzene. The husband and wife decided they could make a better cleaning product and launched Gojo (a combination of their first names). They worked with a Kent State University chemistry professor to develop Gojo’s first hand cleaner.

In the early days, Jerry would mix batches in their basement and fill old pickle jars to sell out of the back of their car. Goldie handled the books and sourced raw materials. Some of Gojo’s first customers were mechanics and auto shops—any business that handled oil, grease and other hard-to-remove chemicals. Its hand cleaner was so popular that Gojo customers would complain about how their employees would fill their lunch pails with the solution to bring home. In 1952, Jerry invented and patented a portion-control dispenser, which squirted out only a dollop of the stuff at a time, which further boosted sales.

Goldie died in 1972. The couple never had children, so Jerry tapped his nephew Joe Kanfer as Gojo’s new president. Kafner had grown up at Gojo headquarters, mixing product and going on sales calls. He would eventually become the company’s chairman and CEO.

In 1988, Gojo invented what would become its most successful product—Purell, an ethyl alcohol-based, waterless hand cleaner. But it took years for the product to become America’s favorite hand sanitizer. According to the New Yorker, their first big Purell customer was upstate New York grocery store chain Wegmans. In the early 1990s Wegmans stationed dispensers throughout the store for use by both employees and customers.

John Nottingham, whose firm Nottingham Spirk helped Gojo develop Purell’s branding, logo and packaging, says before Purell successfully entered the consumer market in 1997, it was just another commercial hand cleaning product. But in the late 1990s, after Nottingham Spirk suggested that Gojo package its sanitizer in a clear plastic bottle and add bubbles to the formula, which gave it an “appealing, fresh and clean aesthetic,” Purell started to catch on. “Purell was a game changer and it changed consumer behavior,” says Nottingham. “It became a mainstream product.”

But perhaps Purell’s biggest break came in 2002, when the Centers for Disease Control rewrote its healthcare hygiene guidelines after a series of studies showed that alcohol-based hand cleaners were more effective at preventing pathogen transmission than soap and water for healthcare workers. With that endorsement Purell expanded rapidly into the healthcare market and even before the coronavirus scare was nearly ubiquitous in doctors’ offices and hospitals, military barracks, grocery stores and schools.

Jerry died in 2005 and two years later, Kanfer’s daughter (the oldest of four children) Marcella Kanfer Rolnick became vice chair. Kanfer Rolnick, who grew up in the business and worked in dispenser production, the microbiology lab and market research and development, took over her father’s role as executive chair in May 2018.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willya...amily-company-that-makes-purell/#73098df064bb

 

Doctor battling coronavirus shares his daily symptoms on social media including ultrasounds of his lungs, shares he has suffered diarrhea, cough and strong headaches

A doctor who has been diagnosed with coronavirus has given an honest insight into the disease's daily symptoms on social media.



Dr. Yale Tung Chen, 35, from Spain, who caught the infection while he was treating patients at Hospital Universitario La Paz in Madrid, has been sharing his experiences battling the illness with the public.

The doctor, who has been documenting his body pains as he remains in quarantine at his home, first became unwell at the end of his shift.

The emergency physician has been sharing ultrasound scans of his lungs and listing his daily symptoms in an attempt to give the world a glimpse of how the illness takes over the body.

Taking to Twitter the doctor wrote:



'Day 1 after #COVID diagnosis.
Sore throat, headache (strong!), Dry cough but not shortness of breath. No lung US abnormalities. Will keep a #POCUS track of my lungs. #coronavirus ? @TomasVillen @ButterflyNetInc.'




'Day 2 after #COVID diagnosis. Less sore throat, cough & headache (thank God!), still no shortness of breath or pleuritic chest pain. #POCUS update: small bilateral pleural effusion, thickened pleural line & basal b-lines (plaps). #coronavirus @TomasVillen @ButterflyNetInc.'


'Day 3 after #COVID diagnosis. No sore throat/headache. Yesterday was cough day, still no shortness of breath/chest pain.

'Diarrhea started, lucky cough got better. #POCUS update: similar effusion, seems less thickened pleural line + no b-lines (PLAPS). #mycoviddiary.'

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The Spanish doctor told LBC News: 'At the end of the shift, I started to feel unwell. In that moment, I wondered if it could be coronavirus, but did not have any epidemiological contacts to justify my fear.'

In an effort to shield his wife and children from 'the slightest threat, the doctor set about getting tested and was soon told he had tested positive for the virus.

He continued: 'From that moment on, I had myself isolated in a room in my house, and avoided any contact with anybody in the house.

'That is probably the most anxious part - to not be able to be with my family, my kids, at this moment.'

 

My city has one diagnosed person. Just one.
Yesterday, our local media broke into programming to show our Mayor, City officials, and a doctor hold a press conference for 20 minutes about this one patient.

Today, I get notice from the company I work for that they are no longer going to be allowing the public to visit our building. SMH.

 

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2528644017384664

 

All sports cancelled. From amateur to professional.

Look for the Olympics next.

First time in 238 years NY Saint Patty days parade - cxld.
Same with Boston's.

(Keep in mind, they just had the Mardi gras parade just 2 weeks ago with millions of people in attendance, and not one virus reported..

Boston Marathon cxld.

Broadway has shut down.
Movie theaters likely next.

Casino's too.
(And sports betting will cease now)

Late night TV cxld. No shows, no guests.

No more weddings, engagement parties, graduations, Proms, Bar Mitzvahs, Church, Award ceremonies, concerts. Restaurant gatherings.

Starbucks has closed. Drive-thru only.

Colleges have closed. students who live on campus have been ordered to vacate and go home.

Look for spring break activities to be cancelled.

Cruise Industry shut down.

Disney shut down.

Malls soon will be, too.

Soccer World Cup, too.

Uber and Lyft will likely go belly up with no riders, and driver's have been scared into not driving.

This is world wide. There will be no manufacturing, no service sector, no income taxes if people aren't working physical jobs..


But let me just show you these stats...


Did the world stop?

 

Different disease with no vaccine. How about we get some tests to see where we're at. You can't have an economy if you don't have people participating.
The oligarchs will take this as opportunity to see everything that isn't bolted down. Welcome to the new world order.

 

The swine flu initially had no vaccine either.
In 11 years of it's existence, I've never known anyone who's gotten the swine flu. I've never taken a vaccine for the swine flu or any other flu strains, either.

You can test all you want. If this was a deadly virus outbreak going on, people would be dropping like flies.

They are not.

So far since December in the U.S...
37 people have died, 19 from one nursing home alone..

So 18 regular Americans are your standard bearer, and all had underlying conditions and most were old.

Again, if this was a raving outbreak, millions worldwide would be dead by now. In the very epicenter, only 3000 have died in China, out of a billion petri-dish citizens.

I'm beginning to think something much larger is going on, an end game that has nothing actually to do with some "mystery' flu virus , but that it is being used as the weapon.

 

Either way the little people are utterly fucked
The economy all over the world has come to a screeching halt. And vaccine or no vaccine things are forever changed. A month in quarantine no one will trust going out ever again

 

Shit man really? They still partying here every day.

 

I completely agree. People will become terrified of being around other people.

Problem is, our whole species is designed for interaction.
Humans actually need physical stimuli and touch.

Sex, forget it. There will be no more pro-creation unless it's done through tubes.

The hysteria that the media has whipped up is irreversible.

Companies are terrified of not shutting down, least they be slammed with lawsuits from any person who contracts the virus, even if they recover.

The media created this hysteria monster. And it's forcing every politician to get in lockstep that we are all about to die from this unless we isolate.

 

*S*N*
I was just looking up Ebola...
Did you know there is no cure for Ebola or a vaccine?
In fact, the symptoms are very similar to what people experience with the Wuhan flu.

But the world didn't stop.

Ebola:
Initial symptoms include fever, headache, muscle pain, and chills. Later, a person may experience internal bleeding resulting in vomiting or coughing blood.