Robert Smith is my god***m hero!

Those are social programs, yes. We have some now, I'm good with that. I'm ok with necessities being socialized. Wants not so much, after all we're capitalists.

 

Social and socialist is not the same thing to me.

 

Why do you keep calling him that? What do you call Elizabeth Warren or Mayor Pete or Andrew Yang. Politically they are all very similar yet Bernie is the only one you make fun of. Why?

 

When did I hit dislike? If I did it was a mistake I dont usually get down like that.
Of course we will pay for these programs with our tax revenue. Calling it tuition free college is fine. No one ever questions where the money comes from to pay teachers cops or fire fighters we all know we pay for it with taxes.

 

Social is the root of the term. Having some social programs doesn't necessarily make it a socialist structure. All of them today are hybrids if some sort.

There is a reason I'm ok with socializing medicine. It has an inelastic demand which is the very definition of necessity in economics, therefore market forces aren't quite as relevant.

I don't expect you to know all this, but Mr vanity is a different story. Hahahaha!

 

I’m not getting in between your dispute with TDK.
A social program can exist in any political system. Socialism as an ideology is the sister of communism. Obviously not all countries that offer universal healthcare schemes and affordable college or free college are socialist/communist. Germany for example is a Social Democracy by constitution. The GDR was a socialist/communist country as you know. Social programs can exist in the context of capitalism. Just because you have a few social programs to help control the problem areas of capitalism doesn’t change the whole political system into socialism/communism.

 

Be careful, if you deny him in front of us he will deny you in front of his father Karl Marx. Then in the afterlife you will be denied entry into the socialist land of backward fuckery

 

You pretty much expanded on what I said already

 

Not sure, but if we can agree on the above, fine.

 

This is terribly untrue and I find this quite offensive...

It has been foretold, “If thou deny him three times, thou shall be denied into the gates pearly gates of twitter, if thou is denied into twitter then thou will not ascend into the communist clouds of red heaven, and ye will not sit beside Marximus.”

Get the scripture right, heathen.

 

Lmao

 

You two arguing is one of the more fun aspects of this site.

 

That’s for long dark winter days! During summer I don’t really have time to read through such arguments...too many other things to do

 

It’s entertaining until 4:30 PM. Then I move on. I’m single and don’t have kids, so there isn’t much going on until the evening, unless I’m traveling.

 

The only thing I don't agree with is having social programs that do not address a necessity. So I don't agree with the socialist college system. Your economy has more social programs than necessary. That's ok for you all but we are capitalists. Even if I leave the USA I would still invest here because of that.

 

Again your inability to comprehend Economics is showing. Economic costs isn't always about money. You are talking about accounting costs. What were you doing in class? Dreaming of Marxism?

 

Also those guys want more than just free college. If you have time read up on the green deal. Hard pass on that noise.

 

That’s fine with me, you don’t have to agree with it or invest in it. If you
Lived here they’d deduct your income tax from your salary anyway and use it to fund all the things the state funds. You could do with the rest whatever you want to.
I just don’t like the term “socialist” being applied to our social programmes. There is a big ideological difference. “Socialist” evokes images of GDR, Stasi, and the Eastern bloc. What we have now are social policies in the context of democracy.
And by the way, do you think Europe is not “capitalist”? It’s still capitalist, just that a few breaks have been installed here and there. Opposite of capitalism is socialism/communism. Should be pretty obvious that doesn’t apply. I think the difference is only in the degree of capitalism.

 

Lol
Our lives are complete opposite. By 4.30 pm I already start getting tired.

 

Pretty much. We are the most Capitalistic and I want to keep it that way. I wouldn't worry about taxes if I lived over there, that's an accounting cost. I'm talking about economic costs. Economic costs aren't specifically about money. It's the economic costs of a socialist educational system that will affect college students and potential students the most. Just because no money will be coming out of their pockets doesn't mean that it will not cost them economically.

And as far as the degree of capitalism, democratic socialists in this country want to get rid of corporations. That's very heavy on the socialist side.