Explosive Devices Sent to Obama, Clintons, CNN

Discussion in 'In the News' started by SilverSmith, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Comlared to the Vegas shooter and all those school shooter? Team right wing got everyone beat
     
  2. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Im always amazed when far righters make this bogus claim, Obama called for unity time and time again, reached across the aisle time and time again only to be rebuffed. Bliss you cannot name ONE, just ONE instance where Obama was divisive. The only reason some far righters called Obama divisive was because he was a Black man who for the first time in history shed light on some events through a different lens and a different perspective, i.e. his comments on Trayvon.
     
  3. SilverSmith

    SilverSmith Well-Known Member

    As expected, Trump blames the media for the bomb mailings. Whenever his leadership is questioned, or lack thereof in that department, Chief Executive Trump, the agitator of the birther movement, makes himself the victim - and his devoted apologists nod their heads approvingly.
     
  4. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Vegas shooter? You must know more about him than all of us do, so you should contact the FBI because so far the full details of him and the shooting, thus far have been deflective, contradictive and elusive.

    School shooters? They are teens not even old enough to vote nor registered to vote. What are you even talking about?
     
  5. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Stephen Paddock was a conservative, that's been documented. He was a big 2nd Amendment advocate.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...tephen-paddock-intelligent-gambler-gun-rights

    The latest HS shooter from FLA was shown several times wearing his Trump MAGA hat.

    Dylan Roof, the kid who shot up a Black church in South Carolina, was a White supremacist, another base supporter of Donald Trump.

    This extreme violence is definitely coming from one side.
     
  6. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Exactly, and they'd ignore him, and continuing on with spewing the birther BS (including Trump), calling he and his family primates and so on
     
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  7. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    Agreed! It amazes me how these trump supporters act as if he simply showed up on the scene and everyone opposed simply started criticizing and hating him, when in fact... Trump himself started the this crap with any and everyone who dared to disagree and/or not see things his way. It's like someone having a bad, disruptive and totally unruly child, but when the teacher call it out... The parent ignores the problem (their child) and instead blames the teacher and everyone else. This has been Trump's MO forever and it obviously continues.
     
  8. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Ok, since you brought up his different "lens" perspective, let's examine just a few..

    Examples..
    - "White Americans cling to their bibles and guns"

    - He called Republicans the "most potent recruitment tool" for ISIS

    - He constantly downplayed radical Islamic terrorism. He loved to constantly blame guns in mass killings but no rhetoric when it was anti-American Muslims pulling the trigger.


    - Saying from the jump that police "acted stupidly" for arresting Harvard Prof. Henry Louis Gates Jr. BEFORE availing himself to any of the facts. (which angered police) (He did walk back the statement, however)
    and then had a 'Beer Summit" over it, which angered Black leaders)


    Another Example:
    When the rhetoric and murder was high against police officers, Obama was no help.
    Example, when Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and murdered FIVE innocent Dallas police officers, injured nine cops and two civilians at a BLM protest. He was angry over police shootings of black men and stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers. Obama commented.
    “I think it’s very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter.”
    THEN, at the slain Officers Memorial, Obama stated: “if you’re black, you’re more likely to be pulled over or searched or arrested; more likely to get longer sentences; more likely to get the death penalty for the same crime.”
    Really? At a time he was needed to help heal, he delivers a divisive opinion.
    ( he also lied and said at their memorial it was easier to buy a Glock than a book.)

    Another example...right after the Ferguson Riots over Brown's death, and after a Ferguson cop was ambushed and shot, he sopke at a Congressional Black Caucus dinner amd blamed police for black community mistrust, and said that Black people are victims and he also stated that “most Americans” think America is racist.
    Could he not have dropped the rhetoric and try to unite Americans at that much needed time?

    - At an Easter speech, he questioned Christians, then slickly said "but that's for another day" deliberately ignoring the mass slaughter of Christian University students in Kenya just days before.

    - In his '95 memoir book, heavily promoted by him during his Presidency, he had made up a White girlfriend he claimed he broke up with over race issues.
    https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/05/obama-new-york-girlfriend-was-composite-122272

    - He invited race-baiter Al Sharpton to the White House more than 100 times and made him an "unofficial race relations ambassador"
    "There's a trust factor with The Rev from the Oval Office on down," a White House aide told Politico. "He gets it, and he's got credibility in the community that nobody else has got. There's really no one else out there who does what he does."

    And finally...

    Obama: 'One of My Few Regrets Is My Inability to Reduce the Polarization and Meanness in Our Politics'
     
  9. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Show me the documents on Padfock that he was 'a Conservative". You do know there are many liberals and Dems who are gun owners, right?

    Wearing a maga hat in ONE covered face, unverified photo does NOT mean Cruz shot up the school over politics. He killed all cross genres of kids.

    Furthermore, he was a violent and menacing teen that was treated with kid gloves because of the Obama Administration's P.R.O.M.I.S.E Policy (part of "the high school to prison reform".) There was so many red flags from this teen and he was able to skate by because he was not allowed to be criminally targeted or touched by law enforcement since PROMISE was being employed in his school district.


    As for racist Dylan Roof, Trump wasn't even President in 2015. Are you being serious now?
    Additionally, Emanuel Kidega Samson, also went on a deadly shooting rampage upon innocent parishioners and kids at a predominantly white Tennessee church to get revenge for Dylan Roof.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/29/us/tennessee-shooting-revenge-note.html

    Deadly violence comes from lunatics on EVERY SIDE, AB.
     
  10. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Lets address your claims one by one, first he DID NOT single out White people with the bibles and guns comment, He was SPECIFICALLY referring to working-class voters in old industrial towns decimated by job losses, the presidential hopeful said: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/14/barackobama.uselections2008 So no it was not JUST WHITE people.

    Your second claim is BOGUS as well, Obama accused Republicans of feeding into the Islamic State's strategy of casting the United States as waging war on Muslims, saying the GOP's rhetoric has become the most "potent recruitment tool" for the militant group. RHETORIC Bliss not the people themselves, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ruiting-tool-for-isil/?utm_term=.cf54b24e929d

    Your third claim is BOGUS, I will let the Presidents works speak for themselves, spoken at a town hall meeting on CNN...
    "There is no doubt, and I've said repeatedly, where we see terrorist organizations like al Qaeda or ISIL -- They have perverted and distorted and tried to claim the mantle of Islam for an excuse for basically barbarism and death," he said.
    "These are people who've killed children, killed Muslims, take sex slaves, there's no religious rationale that would justify in any way any of the things that they do," he said. "But what I have been careful about when I describe these issues is to make sure that we do not lump these murderers into the billion Muslims that exist around the world, including in this country, who are peaceful, who are responsible, who, in this country, are fellow troops and police officers and fire fighters and teachers and neighbors and friends." No reasonable person would call this divisive Bliss.

    Your fourth claim is incomplete, you leave out that Obama only said that the cambridge police acted stupidly, when they arrested Professor Gates AFTER he already showed his ID proving that he lived there.

    Your fifth claim is an OUTRIGHT LIE, here is what Obama said about that
    On the night of July 7, 2016, a sniper killed five Dallas policemen and wounded seven in the deadliest attack for police since 9/11. The assassin, before dying at the scene, said he was angered by the fatal police shootings of black men in Louisiana and Minnesota that had dominated national news in previous days.

    Obama denounced the sniper’s acts the next morning as "a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement." He added, "I believe that I speak for every single American when I say that we are horrified over these events and that we stand united with the people and the police department in Dallas."


    The president also said, "There is no possible justification for these kinds of attacks or any violence against law enforcement."


    Obama was in Europe at the time to attend a NATO Summit and to hold meetings with leaders in Poland and in Spain. He cut short the trip by one day to speak at a memorial service in Dallas for the slain policemen. https://www.politifact.com/virginia...fire-larry-pratt-says-obama-hasnt-decried-ki/

    Read that link Bliss it gives MULTIPLE examples of Obama denouncing violence against police officers in the STRONGEST terms and calling for unity.

    Your Sixth claim is incomplete... In the wake of the shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown, police from multiple departments in riot gear and with military equipment have clashed with protesters nightly. In his first public comments on the case, Obama said there is “never an excuse” for violence against police and similarly “no excuse” for police to use excessive force against peaceful protests or to jail protesters for lawfully exercising their First Amendment rights. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/this-isnt-obamas-first-foray-into-a-racially-charged-situation

    As far as Sharpton we actually agree that he has a checkered past, but I disagree that he is a "race baiter" that is a loaded term used by the far righters to try to discredit Sharpton and others when they do speak up and protest valid injustices.

    So there you have it Bliss, again Obama calling for UNITY not division, to try to state otherwise is just plain reckless and UNTRUE.
     
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  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Good God lawyered again. Why does she continuously keep trying to go up against a well trained and experienced lawyer is beyond me.
     
  12. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    When did Obama leave office???

    Trump is the one who's tearing the country down, not Barack.

    Obama didn't hold political rallies once a month AFTER he won the election to incite his base to hate Republicans. What Trump has done to split this country apart is unprecedented, and exceeds what any Democratic or Republican politician has ever done.

    Barack was only 'divisive' because a subset of the American public couldn't stand to see his face on TV and deal with the fact he was POTUS.

    Trump is the same guy who said we should disarm Hillary Clinton's Secret Service detail and see what happens to her.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2016...s-security-and-see-what-happens-to-her-228312

    Trump is all about intimidation and violence.

    Stop blaming Obama for the idiocy of Trump.
     
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  13. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    infinite loop


    while (water is still wet)
    {
    but.......but......but.......Obama;

    }

    System.out.println("common sense is finally back");
     
  14. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    It's good of him to be gentle each time he lays the smackdown.
     
  15. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    As Shakespeare said....

    "Give to a gracious message A host of tongues, but let ill tidings tell themselves when they be felt."
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    It's a lot easier than saying she voted for fascism.
     
  17. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    My question is, why do y'all continue to play whack-a-mole with her?
     
  18. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    I find it important to make sure others are not misled by specious or flat out false information that gets posted on here from time to time.
     
  19. K

    K Well-Known Member

    Exactly!!! Trolls don't keep going if they aren't getting fed.
     
  20. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    Plenty of these school shooters are of voting age.

    Columbine
    Sandy Hook
    Parkland Florida
    V-Tech
    UC Santa Barbera

    3(well 4 since Columbine was a two man job) of the 5 listed had hardcore "right extremist"/ right leaning beliefs
     
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