TRUMP Thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    #ShitSnowflakesSay
     

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  2. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Actually, there was report on MSNBC the Mueller team reached out to Davis and told him to STFU because he was leaking too much.
     
  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Let me guess. "An anonymous source said..." :rolleyes:
     
  4. CAkicker

    CAkicker Well-Known Member

  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    President Donald J. Trump Prioritizes Historically Black College and Universities
    EDUCATION

    Issued on: February 27, 2018

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    Established by visionary leaders, America’s HBCUs have long played an integral role in our Nation’s history, providing Black Americans opportunities to learn and achieve their dreams.

    President Donald J. Trump

    PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP CONTINUES TO PRIORITIZE HBCUs: With the announcement today, President Donald J. Trump demonstrates his commitment to Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs).

    • Today, President Trump announced Johnny Taylor, Jr., the former seven-year President of the Thurgood Marshall College fund, as the Chairman of the President’s Board of Advisors on Historically Black Colleges and Universities.
      • On February 28, 2017, the President signed an Executive Order announcing the President’s Board of Advisors on HBCUs.
      • Chairman Taylor will work closely with Johnathan Holifield, who was appointed as executive director of the President’s White House Initiative on HBCUs last year.
    ADVANCING HCBUs: President Trump has prioritized HBCUs since the beginning of his Administration.

    • President Trump’s February 28, 2017 Executive Order was the earliest any President had signed an Order on HBCUs.
      • In addition to creating the White House Initiative on HBCUs and the President’s Board of Advisors on HBCUs, the Executive Order created an Interagency Working Group to advance and coordinate the work regarding HBCUs.
      • The President ordered government agencies that regularly interact with HBCUs to develop annual plans to “strengthen the capacity” of those schools. There are 31 agencies that will submit such plans.
      • The Order will help improve HBCUs’ participation in Federal programs and foster more and better opportunities in higher education.
    • President Trump’s proposed budgets for 2018 and 2019 have maintained funding for HBCUs.
      • The Department of Education worked with HBCUs to protect $80 million in Title III carryover funding.
      • President Trump has called for an additional $20 million in funding for the Strengthening HBCUs program above the amount set in the recent budget deal.
      • The President’s budget has called for an increase of $400 million for the TRIO program and an increase of $300 million for Federal Work Study.
     
  6. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

  7. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member


    Signed that EO last year and has either not allocated funds where promised or has had Ditzy DeVos slash the aforementioned programs.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ograms-for-the-poor-slashed-in-trumps-budget/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...massive-cuts-to-college-student-aid-programs/

    https://www.acenet.edu/news-room/Pa...Slashes-Spending-on-Student-Aid-Research.aspx



    Just like the "criminal justice reform" that he keeps having "meetings" on, but refuses to endorse any of the proposed legislation that crosses his desk.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/23/trump-prison-reform-bill-justice-department-794871

    He tabled the latest bill three weeks after the photo op with those black pastors.






    (Many of whom are actually on the GOP payroll.)
     
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  8. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

  9. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    It says it right in your LINK...why. Because President Trump can't back any CJ Reform UNLESS Congress is behind him to see it through and the Senate has declared they're not endorsing anything until after the midterms.

    "..The bill drew backlash from Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), who called the proposal a “jailbreak” that would “let serious felons back on the streets.” Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) on Thursday said that construcive conversations are currently being had with White House about the legislation, "but nothing is final yet."
    "With Republicans in the majority, any agreement must be endorsed by the President and include a commitment from Republican leaders to move it through Congress and get it to the President’s desk,” Durbin said.

    Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) said on Wednesday that the Senate wouldn’t take up any new package of prison and sentencing reforms before the midterms.


    Also, this praise from the DOJ appears to reference releasing drug traffickers, not users, not dealers. I certainly don't want actual traffickers out as part of the reform, do you?

     
  10. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    So this link is not about funding actual colleges, which was what my post was about.

    This referenced financing prep programs for those who feel they cant cut it when tney get to college. So another topic, right?

    Additionally, these subsidiaries program cuts are not unsual and do not reflect that President Trump doesn't want to help actual Black Colleges financially.

    Superfluous cuts happen in every Admin.

    Obama Administration Slashed Funding for School-Safety Programs
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...unding-school-safety-programs-andrew-johnson/
     
  11. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

  12. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    How you gonna spend 90% of your time lying and still suck at it? If you didn't want to talk to Bob Wooward then just say you didn't want to talk to Bob Woodward. Don't throw your lackeys under the bus because you got exposed.

    *sigh* oh Donnie, what are we gonna do with you?

     
  13. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Neil Cavuto takes down Trump again. Cavuto calling out Trump's latest batch of lies starts at 1:24.

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  14. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Strange. I can't find the thread on Obama. I looked on here real deep(state), too!
    (Maybe you can help me find it, @Loki??)

    Oh well, let me just dump it here..

    Obama’s silky lie and FBI bias in the Clinton investigation

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-james-comey-report-kass-0617-story.html

    Obama told his silky lie when his chosen successor was Hillary Clinton.

    Clinton had endangered top secret information by using an unsecured, home-brew email server when she was U.S. secretary of state. Any other American who dared risk top government secrets on a basement server would have faced federal prosecution and prison.

    Obama’s lie was told in 2015, when Obama was asked by CBS’ Bill Plante when he learned Mrs. Clinton had used an unsecured email server.

    “The same time everybody else learned it, through news reports,” Obama said. He was so silky that you couldn’t even hear his tongue rustling along his teeth.

    He waxed on about how his administration was all about “transparency.”

    But Obama did not learn about Clinton’s home-brew server like “everybody else.”

    According to the inspector general’s report, Obama was in fact one of 13 top government officials communicating with Clinton on her private email server, even as Clinton’s server was targeted by foreign intelligence services.
     
  15. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Do you know what laws HRC broke and what the penalties for breaking those laws were??

    It's really tiring listening to conservatives say with absolute certainty that HRC did something that should have landed her in prison.

    At worst, Obama could have fired her if he thought her actions warranted it.
    But there's no way she did something that was prosecutable.
     
  16. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    • Why Hillary Clinton has a Get Out of Jail Free card
      • By MORGAN LIDDICK

      It’s 2018. Why isn’t Hillary Clinton under arrest for mishandling and misuse of classified government documents?

      Yes, I know — this is old news about transgressions handled in the classic Clinton way: deny everything, wait until one’s acolytes in the press make enough smoke to obscure the events themselves, and then if anyone subsequently raises the question, respond with “We’ve already been over that.” Nothin’ to see here, folks.

      It would doubtless have gone according to plan save for the digging done by Judicial Watch and a few others, whose Freedom of Information lawsuits finally forced some facts, accompanied by a few actual emails, to the surface. Said emails came from the laptop of one former congressman Anthony Wiener , ex-husband of Huma Abedin — the top aide to Clinton at State and afterward. Some were classified, all were redacted — some in a way reminding the viewer of that famous Frank Zappa tune “The Black Page.” None had any business being on Weiner’s laptop, or anywhere outside of a U.S. Government secure system....
      I can hear the objections already so, before we continue, a few points of fact. Both sections 798 and 1924 of U.S. Code Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 93 apply here. The first covers improper removal and storage of classified material, the latter with revealing or causing to be revealed classified information. Neither mentions “intent,” only actions. Both title 18 and State Department regulations, specifically guidelines K and M dealing with classified material, stipulate that classification is caused by content, not markings. One cannot declassify documents simply by snipping off the header and footer, as Hillary Clinton’s loopy “nothing marked classified” suggested. So when former FBI director Comey said, essentially, that prosecution was not possible since there was no bad intent, he was not relating fact. At best, he was respectfully tugging his forelock as the queen passed. AG Lynch did the same a few days later when she closed the never-serious investigation.

      John V. Berry, a Northern Virginia lawyer specializing in security clearance cases put it best in a 2016 Washington Post op-ed:
    • “Clinton’s use of a personal server for classified government email, without appropriate approvals and security, would normally be treated as a serious security violation. Another security violation would be the storage and transmission of classified materials using personal (nongovernmental) means off site.” He continued by noting that, based on his experience, had an ordinary employee done what either Hillary or Ms. Abedin did they would certainly lose their security clearance, be fined substantially and probably face jail time. But, not Hillary and her posse. They’re special.

      Here are the facts about what has come to light on Anthony Weiner’s laptop, doubtless put there by Huma Abedin when they were briefly married. The FBI uncovered 110 mails in 52 chains between Abedin and Clinton; eight of these chains were partially or wholly comprised of “Top Secret” material. A further 36 chains had “Secret” and eight had “Confidential” material. It’s unsurprising that State slow-walked this information, finally releasing it only when compelled by a court to do so: it absolutely contradicts Hillary Clinton’s claim that she never mishandled classified material, and it completely subverts director Comey’s rationale for recommending that Hillary Clinton not be indicted. Together with Team Clinton’s destruction of storage devices under subpoena, these details fairly scream “guilty knowledge.”
    Nevertheless, Hillary Clinton isn’t in the dock, and not because she didn’t mean to violate the law; she did. Not because what she did doesn’t matter; it does. Not because her violations were minor: they weren’t. Hillary Clinton isn’t standing before a judge today because of who and what she is, and who she knows. And we all understand, somewhere deep down, that her Get Out of Jail Free card is neither right nor just, because it means there’s one set of laws for the Clintons and their pals, and another for the rest of us.

    This is a big reason Donald Trump was elected. Americans living west of the Potomac and east of the Sacramento rivers are tired of being called various versions of “deplorable” by those who fancy themselves not public servants, but rulers of a public so irredeemably dull it couldn’t think its way out of a paper bag. They are tired of the condescension, of the transparent falsehoods and, above all, of the impunity. Donald Trump was their response to all that and more, and they’re not done yet.

    Not by a long shot.
     
  17. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    LOL.


    Then you're going to LOVE the Mueller report and impending Trump impeachment proceedings.
    I simply cannot believe you've convinced yourself that Trump is some compassionate, bleeding heart, public servant who decided to run for POTUS because his country needed him.

    Take the 'corruption' of HRC and multiply that by 1000x.

    I get wanting to vote for a political outsider. But Trump wasn't that guy.

    Believe it or not, you elected someone exponentially WORSE than HRC ever would have been.

    Congratulations. Your grateful country thanks you.

    When you get a chance, check out the latest NYT op-ed about the Trump WH.lol

    Answer the question, do you think HRC should be in prison for using a private email server??
    Because Colin Powell did the EXACT SAME THING when he was Secretary of State.

    Finally, there's no evidence whatsoever that HRC's email server was hacked by foreign nationals.
    Unlike the State Department, which has had their servers hacked multiple times.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9d3aa5969574

    https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/state-department-hack-worst-ever/index.html

    (This is the same Russian government...Putin...that our current AMERICAN POTUS considers a close ally. Putin has Trump's cut balls in a jar of formaldehyde somewhere in the Kremlin.)

    At worst HRC would have been censured and forced to resign.

    Secretarys of State don't end up in jail unless they're personally involved in espionage, not for the mishandling of classified documents.
     
  18. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Did you read what John Berry said and did you read the multiple codes she violated. That's punishable by imprisonment, AB.
     
  19. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Code violations are not the same as counts of indictment in a criminal trial. Key word, CRIMINAL.
    You really think the GOP gave HRC a 'get out of jail free' card??

    If DOJ had a criminal case against HRC, they would have forced her to drop out of the race.
    http://time.com/4394178/hillary-clinton-email-fbi-investigation/

    Carelessness doesn't equate to criminal intent, such as deliberating sharing classified and top secret documents with a foreign power.
    It's the same reason Trump WH employees like Jared Kushner will never be prosecuted for using private email, which is also a violation of federal guidelines regarding Freedom of Information Act, The National Archives and Records regulations and Federal Records Act.

    And even if DOJ had indicted HRC and tried her federal court, the maximum penalty according to criminal code Section 1924 of Title 18 was a year in jail OR a fine.

    You would almost have to prove she was guilty of espionage to actually put HRC in jail for any significant amount of time.
     
  20. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    That would be asking hysterical propagandized right-wing morons to respect the rule of law.
     
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