Gunman kills 27+ people at a church in San Antonio metro area

No one wants to ban all guns.

But the reason we will continue to have these mass shootings year after year is because we have such weak gun regulations.

You can't buy explosives without all kinds of permits and government clearances. Same thing with poisons. Why?? Because they're considered highly dangerous and capable of killing people in mass numbers.

We're the only country in the industrialized world, hell, the entire world period, outside of warzones, where mass shootings are considered the norm.

I think the NRA and the gun lobby are actually playing themselves into a corner. 2nd Amendment advocates have been against even the most modest gun reforms, believing if they give in on one concession, it will lead to a ban on ALL guns.

But eventually they're going to make the rest of the non gun owning America decide common sense gun regulations aren't enough.

Even banning semiautomatic weapons and restricting magazine size would have prevented the sheer number of deaths in San Antonio and Las Vegas alone.

I just don't believe it's our birthright as Americans to own a gun.

Oh, I also agree gun owners should be required to own liability insurance, like car owners.


This is the kind of shit that makes the rest of the world look at the United States and think we're deeply fucked in the head.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but he did this because........a woman? Is that normal to you? No chance he was mentally Ill? So we all are expected to snap and get violent on strangers because a relationship ended? I agree that black people never get the benefit of the doubt about possibly being mentally Ill, but if we ban guns we still can't ignore mental illness.

At one point I had access to a database that contained the name of everyone that was treated for a mental illness of some sort in the entire state of Ohio. That was one hell of a eye opening redpill. The mental health system is beyond broke. Just imagine the people that never get help. Its real out there. I even know people I work with now that struggle with mental illness the average employee there doesn't even know they exist.

Its real they are everywhere and I mean everywhere. They need more access to treatment asap. Why the fuck do we keep ignoring them?

 

It's not just about the mentally ill. Sometimes normal people 'snap' and act out violently.
Senator Rand Paul just had his ass beat a few days ago with several broken ribs, a beating he received inside a gated community from his neighbor....a doctor.

Even if every diagnosed mentally ill person wasn't allowed to own a gun, we'd still have cases were someone just went off one day.
I'd rather a shooter have a 9 millimeter with an eight round clip instead of an AR15 with an extended 30 round mag.

 

There are glocks with 17 round mags. There are sophomores in college that know enough chemistry to do more damage than a Ar15. Are we going to ban books, gas and soap? Lol

Nah just stay divided enough for another dotard to win office. Because white supremists with access to biological weapons aren't nearly as threatening as Ar15's

 

And then we read shit like this.

 

Yes. Yes, they do.

Btw, there were restrictive regulation laws in place on the 2nd A that would have stopped him getting a gun.
A federal background check.

Except, the AirForce forgot to report him after booting him over his (domestic) violence and cracking his step-son's skull.

So the laws are there and they'd have worked here. People fucked up.
Frankly, he belonged in jail.

 

I hope you aren't trying to imply smart people can't be mentally ill. You don't know if that guy was ill or not. You are just showing an uninformed bias.

Mathematican John Nash was more than smart. So was the unibomber.

 

If you believe in God you should thank him that the unibomber was a mathematician and not a biologist. Next time we might not be so lucky.

 

Y'all keep bullshitting. The first case of some shit like the black plague and I'm out! Ar'15's? What a joke.

 

No, I'm saying Rand Paul's neighbor probably had no history of mental illness. That didn't stop an argument from escalating and his beating Rand Paul's ass.

You take certain firearms off the street and offering them for sale, and its less like a massacre like LV and San Antonio happens.

As for Bliss, take off the tin foil hat. There is no organized movement on the Left to ban ALL guns. In fact many libs and progressives own handguns. We've never been about banning guns. Just certain types, military style assault weapons that can be modded to fully auto.
NO need for that kind of firepower where I live, or anywhere else.

THe point is there needs to be more regulations on firearms and certain types of guns should only be allowed to rent at gun clubs.
You wanna feel the rush of firing a semiauto or auto rifle?? At least do it in a controlled setting and keep it out of the neighborhood.

The alternative is to say you don't give a shit about all these mass shootings because you NEED your guns.
That's not a solution in a civilized society.

 

Errm...he's a card carrying fanatical vocal Socialist who harrassed Senator Rand often on his politics. I'd say dude is certified nuts.

 

Just one: how will thoughts and prayers prevent the next mass shooting? Or should we just go ahead and switch to unicorn farts and fairy piss? Because all of those things work equally well when it comes to preventing mass shootings, which is to say that they absolutely don't work at all.

Until we recognize that our national obsession with being able to own as many guns as possible with as few restrictions as possible, this is going to happen over and over again. It will never end. Ever. I care about that way more than I could ever care about winning elections.

 

What's with all these attacks by the Left on thoughts and prayers, all of a sudden? Keep your atheism to yourself, no one is forcing you to pray.
No one ever said prayers were for anything more than a form of comfort in a time of grief. A religious hug.

This talk was nowhere when people lit candles for the young woman killed at the protest.

 

I can't speak for all of those on the left but my mocking and attacks on thoughts and prayers as a response to mass shootings is because thoughts and prayers are a fucking stupid response to mass shootings.

If something is stupid then I'm gonna call it stupid. No one is forcing you to read what I write. Hit the block button if it makes you feel better.

 

You're really basing a conversation like this off guesses, using words like "probably" smh. Hell, I would have never known 2 people that work in my area of the building were on meds if they didn't tell management. Management told me but most people have no idea. I would have been just as clueless as everyone else in the building.

This toxic society that keeps ignoring the mentally ill brushing it off with assumptions and demanding people spend more time at work than with their families is for the birds....smh.

 

Well, it's not like they're wrong about that.

 

Did I say they would? Or perhaps you rather ban everything that can be used as a weapon which is nearly everything when someone has the knowledge and will, so why not just treat the illness, which is the problem to begin with?

 

Because not every single person who decides to get one of these guns and go on a killing spree is mentally ill. Trying to blame everything on mental illness is a cop-out and ignores the fact that these weapons, which have no other purpose than to make it as easy as possible to kill dozens of people in minutes, should not be available outside of an active warzone. Mental health treatment is a major problem in this country and the way we deal with 90% of mental health issues is a joke...but there is so much more to it than that. Treating mental health problems is a very, very small step.

And there's a big difference between something that can be used as a weapon (but is designed for some other primary purpose) and an actual weapon. Yeah, cars and trucks and planes can be used as weapons but they aren't designed for that purpose. Neither is fertilizer or lighter fluid or anything else that people might use to kill each other.

 

Its not only you, Paul Ryan was attacked on Twitter for praying by some ex kid actor nobody, and Don Lemmon said the same. It's like you're mimicking them. All of a sudden, its a problem to pray when people are killed.

 

If they think prayer is the only solution, then yes. I will mock the absolute living shit out of them. If they want to do something meaningful to stop the near-monthly mass shootings that we have in this country then maybe I'll be more likely to listening to whatever they have to say. But if they're gonna keep their heads in the sand like ostritches and pretend like nothing is wrong? Miss me with that shit.