Russia created Fake black activist accounts

The Russian Government created a group page called BLACKTIVIST.
It was 'liked' by more people than even BLM...

This story is crazy....





For the story details -
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d-to-russian-government/ar-AAsAQZO?li=BBnb7Kz

 

The US does the same thing....always has.

 

The U.S. has never used the full capabilities of social media to move public opinion in other countries.
This is a new form of cyber warfare that's been innovated and perfected by the Russians.

Yes, the CIA has always used propaganda and disinformation tactics in foreign countries, but not to this degree, because there was no such thing as cross-sectional social media platforms before now.

 

What are they trying to do though?
I'm seriously puzzled because the easy default belief is likely not their end game. What is their exact motive?

 

To create so mo much chaos and mistrust until no one knows what the 'real' news is anymore.

Democracies thrive on citizen's implicit trust of certain institutions, like the media and government.

Once you make people believe everything is a lie, all elections are rigged, all news is fake, you've basically destroyed public trust which allows an autocrat like Putin to run a country without any oversight, because his critics and supporters won't know what's real anymore.

Look at Russia, most Russians are so cynical when it comes to the media, they turn a blind eye to all the crooked stuff Putin does in Eastern Europe because they don't believe the media or news reports from other countries.

This is why it's so dangerous for Trump to label the mainstream media as FAKE news.
Instead of criticizing a specific report or story that was erroneous, Trump is telling people you can't believe anything you read or hear, specifically if it's something bad about him.

Most people have no clue just how dangerous this form of cyber warfare really is.

It's good for people to be skeptics in a democracy. However you tear at the very foundations of a free society when most people believe everything they see and read is phony and corrupt.

Most Germans didn't believe Hitler was building concentration camps in the 1930s and exterminating Jews from all over Europe.
Why?? Because they stopped believing anything critical about the Hitler regime they read in the press.

 

I swear it feels like the end of times...

 

Their services could have been sub-contracted by Uncle Sam.

The US does this through their Co-intelpro shenanigans.

Russians do that to their own..as well as America.

 

Division is their motive. You always want chaos and division in your adversary's camp, order and unity in your own.

The russians also back right-wing organizations in Europe and likely even in the US. There's a reason nazi Richard Spencer led his followers in a chant of "Russia is our friend!" He is also notably married to a russian woman who is a pro-Putin activist.

This is just another way in which the internet will probably bring social and economic upheaval before the dust settles. Nations interfering in the political and social affairs of other countries through global news and social media... Global links and cooperation among like-minded extremist groups of all kinds (from islamists to nazis) along with polarization from their own countrymen... Not to mention hacking...

 

All the above comments could equally apply to the U.S.A. and Russia.
Both manipulate the media.

 

LOL. You've already been turned.

Part of this Russia cyber strategy is for people to think both Russia and the USA do equally bad things and manipulate the media and public opinion to the same degree.
Russian media, even 'independent' media, is controlled by Moscow. Corporations run the media in the U.S., bad enough but not as bad as MSM being a full blown propaganda wing of the government.

The level of overall corruption in Russia compared to the USA just isn't on the same level.

Imagine if after the election, Trump rivals Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio, either were arrested without clear charges, or simply disappeared?? Or if HRC, Bill and Chelsea were all found to have committed suicide in their NY home?? Or if a reporter who wrote a negative piece about Trump was gunned down in a drive by after leaving his office??

These type of events have happened in Russia to Putin enemies.

Putin is arguably the richest man in the world, yet has never held a private sector job. He also controls the Russian mob. Putin doesn't run the mob, but he's the one who decides how far their criminal enterprise is allowed to operate.

The difference in corruption between Russia and the USA is the difference between having a cold and a stage 4 brain tumor.


Russia may no longer be 'communist' but in most ways they still function how they did during the Soviet era.

That's why when people spread crazy conspiracy theories like Hillary Clinton has murdered dozens of people, it provides cover for someone like Putin who actually does kill his political, business and media rivals.

The lies muddy the truth until people believe both sides are equally corrupt so what Putin does isn't that bad.

 

That poster thinks more highly of Russia than the US

 

Putin is using mind games and play people's emotions.

 

Both side do manipulate the media and try to manipulate the news we hear.
Both are pushing their own self interest.

 

True. The problem is you're trying to create some moral equivalence between the tactics used by the USA to manipulate public opinion, and the techniques used by Moscow.

They aren't close to the same and the outcomes aren't remotely similar.

For example, in this country, we are GUARANTEED to have a new POTUS every 4 to 8 years.(Knock on wood.)
Putin was elected for the first time in 2000 by a newly democratic Russia and subsequently has never lost an election for 16 years.

That simply doesn't happen during peace time in democratic nations, also considering the implosion of the Russian economy and the accusations of corruption within the Kremlin.

Yes the USA is rife with political corruption, however the difference between who we are and alleged 'free' nations like Russia and Iran is to what degree.

Imagine if George W. Bush was STILL the president after the 2000 election, despite the debacle of the Iraq war and the economic collapse of 2007, yet the state controlled media and electoral process kept telling us that Dubya was winning reelection by more than 70% of the popular vote.

Nearly all Americans would know that was a lie, but wouldn't know what to do about it.

That's what life is like in Russia.

A crackhead can still call a heroin addict a junkie and still be 100% on point.

I used to always say when I was a kid my mom was a firm believer in corporal punishment. Some of my friends would ask how often I got beat when I was growing up??

I said, maybe five times. Total. In my life.
When one of my crew said they got beat at least every damn WEEK growing up, I realized we simply weren't talking about the same thing.

That's the difference between the USA and Russia.

 

True,a mighty big difference.

 

The USA has supported some of the most corrupt and brutal nations on this earth eg Iran under the Shah, Chile, Saudi Arabia, Turkey etc etc
It turns a blind eye to its business friends.
It has created turmoil in the Middle East.
It starts a war and they when all is a mess, it leaves. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya. Vietnam.

 

Are you saying because the U.S. fucks up shit around the world, we should sit down and shut up while another nation fucks with our election and chooses our president??

Saying we deserved what happened because it's karma is one thing. Saying we should just accept because whatever doesn't make any sense.

BTW the U.S. didn't create the turmoil in the ME. It was already there.

THe complaint we get from most nations we go to war with isn't that we leave when it becomes a mess.

On the contrary, we build military bases and never leave.

 

Here you sound like Dotard when he refused to condemn neo Nazis in Charlottesville.

When are you going to say something bad about Russia? If I recall correctly it was Americans that saved your country from Nazis, not Russia. You're welcome.

 

Nazi Germany was defeated by a combination of countries - not just the USA
The Soviet Union lost 20 million people in WW2
In criticizing the USA, I am not automatically praising Russia.

 

Thats because Russia was getting beat badly. If Russia would have saved your country it would have been communist like east Germany.

Just like dotard, you are never critical of Russia. Anyone can see that.