Amazon's new refunds policy will 'crush' small businesses, outraged sellers say

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  1. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    • Amazon sent an email to sellers this week announcing a new policy for refunds.
    • Merchants who ship products themselves are now subject to same rules as items shipped by Amazon.
    • One seller asks on an online forum, "Is this a joke?"
    Ari Levy | @levynews
    Wed, 2 Aug '17 | 9:15 AM ETCNBC.com

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    Amazon sellers are up in arms over a new returns policy that will make it easier for consumers to send back items at the merchant's expense.

    Marketplace sellers who ship products from their home, garage or warehouse — rather than using Amazon's facilities — were told this week by email that starting Oct. 2, items they sell will be "automatically authorized" for return.

    That means a buyer will no longer need to contact the seller before sending an item back, and the merchant won't have the opportunity to communicate with the customer. If a consumer is returning an electronic device because it's difficult to use, for example, the seller won't be able to offer help before being forced to pay a refund.

    "Customers will be able to print a prepaid return shipping label via the Online Return Center instantly," the email said.

    Additionally, Amazon said that it's introducing "returnless refunds," a feature that the company said is "highly requested by sellers." The change enables sellers to offer a refund without taking back an item that may be expensive to ship and hard to resell.


    A third-party seller forwarded the email to CNBC and said these policies "will totally crush small businesses that fulfill their own orders."

    Online forums are already lighting up with angry sellers.

    On the topic of returnless refunds, one merchant said, "In other words, customers get things from us for free! Is this a joke?" Another said, "Amazon is going to assume that a buyer would NEVER lie about the reason for the return so they don't have to pay for it."

    And yet another: "So, now, those `semi' honest buyers are being encouraged to join the rest of the full fledged `scammers' at our expense." Amazon also charges a premium for use of its return labels, so it's forcing merchants to pay more for a service they don't necessarily want.

    Some sellers noted in the forums that Amazon is allowing them to exempt a certain number of items from the automated returns process.

    Amazon confirmed in a statement that sellers can "receive exemptions to have specific inventory excluded" and said that the returnless service is optional.

    "These new features allow sellers to reduce time and costs associated with returns while providing customers with an easy and efficient return experience," the company said in an e-mail. The statement also said that the rules only apply to in-policy returns and the company disputed the notion that it charges a premium for return labels.

    It's no secret that Jeff Bezos' first, second and third objectives are to please Amazon customers, giving them more stuff at the lowest prices and at faster speeds. But increasingly, those upgrades come at the expense of sellers, who often build their businesses on Amazon and have few other places to generate revenue.

    The latest policy changes are directed at sellers who choose to fulfill orders themselves instead of using Fulfillment by Amazon. Amazon is making every effort to provide the same experience for customers regardless of whether the products they buy come from Amazon or a third-party merchant.

    By starting in October, Amazon can get the process rolling in time for Cyber Monday and the all-important holiday rush.

    -- Updated with a statement from Amazon

    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/08/02...-will-crush-small-businesses-say-sellers.html
     
  2. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    FUCK!!!
     
  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Does this effect you?

    I mean..it's going to force sellers to have to raise prices to accommodate this...


    That means a buyer will no longer need to contact the seller before sending an item back, and the merchant won't have the opportunity to communicate with the customer. If a consumer is returning an electronic device because it's difficult to use, for example, the seller won't be able to offer help before being forced to pay a refund.
     
  4. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member


    So as a buyer, I recently accidentally bought a microusb to usb-c . I tried to get a refund and they just straight up refunded it and told me not to send it. I was a bit peeved as I like to send things back that I don't want. I don't like this policy.

    People will take advantage of this and lie. They need to allow people to send the items back.


    Now keep in mind it would have cost amazon more money to have me ship the product back then to for me to keep it but it isn't mines.......

    And no I will not pay to ship it back if you were thinking why doesn't he just send it back. I am frugal!
     
  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Whenever l buy something from an online retailer I always have to pay to send it back. Example, HSN or QVC.

    Now you say you're Frugal, but if you bought something from Best Buy and realized it was a wrong item, would you not then get back in your car and drive back there at your expense to return it?
    I think if it's your mistake, you pay,
    if they sent you something in error or dysfunctional, they pay.
     
  6. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    If I am going to return something at walmart then it would be a compounded trip i.e. to buy something else at the same time so that means I did not waste gas since I had to go any way. I know you said best buy but I don't ever recall shopping there and I don't know what I could buy at best buy that I could not buy online.
     
  7. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Oh yea definitely understand the multi-task return scenerio. (I do it to) I didn't factor that when l made my comment.
     

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