TRUMP Thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. bodhesatva

    bodhesatva Well-Known Member

    Yeah. I agree with the sentiment to an extent, but I hear a lot of my friends use this phrase to explain why they simply won't vote -- because they're tired of voting for "the lesser of two evils."

    And again, there is some truth to that, but it's also true that no politician will ever agree with everything I believe, because we're all human and no two humans have exactly the same beliefs. So while my friends' position sounds noble, in practice it means they're waiting for some mythical politician to come along who doesn't make mistakes and who they agree with on everything. Which means they basically never vote because no such politician exists.

    Politics is always about compromise. Hilary Clinton certainly made some major mistakes, and I don't agree with her on everything, but I certainly agree with her a heck of a lot more than I do Trump, and if I wait around for the perfect politician I will die of old age. And in the meantime, the conservative white people who vote no matter what will just keep on winning.
     
  2. Reverie

    Reverie Well-Known Member

    The thing with Trump is that I am actually surprised nobody haven't tried to kill him yet.
     
  3. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    45 is just a symptom of a much bigger problem. It would be great if we could seperate from everyone that voted for him. He can stay actually, I'd be happier to be seperated from his supporters.
     
  4. Reverie

    Reverie Well-Known Member

    I see your point.
     
  5. MightyLighty

    MightyLighty Well-Known Member

  6. Reverie

    Reverie Well-Known Member

  7. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

     
  8. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Funny, cringy vid. First 45 seconds are about TRUMP.:eek:
     
  9. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Very creepy and inappropriate.
     
  10. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Congress Reaches Deal on Russia Sanctions, Setting Up Tough Choice for Trump

    The new legislation would sharply limit the president’s ability to suspend or terminate the sanctions — a remarkable handcuffing by a Republican-led Congress six months into Mr. Trump’s tenure. It is also the latest Russia-tinged turn for a presidency consumed by investigations into the Trump campaign’s interactions with Russian officials, including conversations between Trump advisers and Russian officials about prospective sanctions relief.

    Now, Mr. Trump could soon face a decision he hoped to avoid: veto the bill — a move that would fuel accusations that he is doing the bidding of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia — or sign legislation imposing sanctions his administration has opposed.
    “A nearly united Congress is poised to send President Putin a clear message on behalf of the American people and our allies,” said Senator Benjamin L. Cardin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, “and we need President Trump to help us deliver that message

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/us/politics/congress-sanctions-russia.html
     
  11. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

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  13. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Peggy Noonan: Trump's a 'drama queen'

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    "Conservative columnist Peggy Noonan said President Trump's biggest flaw undermining his own power is that he lacks traditionally masculine characteristics.

    "He's not strong and self-controlled, not cool and tough, not low-key and determined; he's whiny, weepy and self-pitying," she wrote Thursday night in an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal. "He throws himself, sobbing, on the body politic.

    He's a drama queen."

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    "Trump must remind people of their first wife," wrote Noonan.

    "Actually his wife, Melania, is tougher than he is with her stoicism and grace, her self-discipline and desire to show the world respect by presenting herself with dignity. ... His inability — not his refusal, but his inability — to embrace the public and rhetorical role of the presidency consistently and constructively is weak."

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/peggy-noonan-trumps-a-drama-queen/article/2629969
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  14. blackbull1970

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    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Trump Removes Anthony Scaramucci From Communications Director Role

    WASHINGTON — President Trump has decided to remove Anthony Scaramucci from his position as communications director, three people close to the decision said Monday, relieving him just days after Mr. Scaramucci unloaded a crude verbal tirade against other senior members of the president’s senior staff.

    Mr. Scaramucci’s abrupt removal came just 10 days after the wealthy New York financier was brought on to the West Wing staff, a move that convulsed an already chaotic White House and led to the departures of Sean Spicer, the former press secretary, and Reince Priebus, the president’s first chief of staff.

    The decision to remove Mr. Scaramucci, who had boasted about reporting directly to the president not the chief of staff, John F. Kelly, came at Mr. Kelly’s request, the people said. Mr. Kelly made clear to members of the White House staff at a meeting Monday morning that he is in charge.

    It was not clear whether Mr. Scaramucci will remain employed at the White House in another position or will leave altogether.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/us/politics/anthony-scaramucci-white-house.html
     
  16. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

  17. blackbull1970

    blackbull1970 Well-Known Member

    Washington Post: Trump dictated son's misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer

    "Flying home from Germany on July 8 aboard Air Force One, Trump personally dictated a statement in which Trump Jr. said he and the Russian lawyer had "primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children" when they met in June 2016, according to multiple people with knowledge of the deliberations.

    The statement, issued to the New York Times as it prepared a story, emphasized that the subject of the meeting was "not a campaign issue at the time."

    The claims were later shown to be misleading."


    http://www.postandcourier.com/news/...cle_7dd9533a-764d-11e7-9659-8bfe0d7dc381.html
     
  18. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    First of all, Peggy Noonan used to be so cute.
    Secondly, Trump has got to be one of the most insecure men we've ever had as POTUS.
    You knew that when he lied and said he had a huge inaugural crowd and told Sean Spicer to keep telling the lie.
    Inaugural crowd size is just random bullshit no POTUS cares about after winning the election.
    But to Trump, that validation mattered.smh
     
  19. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Did you watch it?
     
  20. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    Some. The National Park Service confirmed that Trump had an average to small inaugural crowd, especially compared to Obama.
    Again, why did Trump even turn that into an issue or even care about it??

    The man has too many obvious insecurities IMO to be leader of the free world, among his other issues. He always needs to be validated, always has to posture like he's a tough guy, etc.

    For such an esteemed conservative voice like Peggy Noonan to say Trump comes across like a drama queen is shocking.
    Even that fucked up handshake Trump does, why does he still need to SHOW and PROVE his personal dominance instead of being gracious and conducting himself like a statesman and diplomat...since he's now the POTUS and arguably the most powerful man in the world?

    That's security and ignorance on the part of Trump not knowing the immense authority and power the POTUS has around the globe.
    IMO Trump judged the presidency by how much money the job paid and therefore thought it was beneath his role as CEO of Trump Inc.lol

    The guy just wanted the accomplishment of getting elected POTUS, but still doesn't have much of an idea the enormous responsibility that comes with the job.
     
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2017

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