Random Political comments...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    They destroyed themselves. Bernie should be President right now. Clinton is the worst politician in history. She couldn't beat a black guy in a racist country or a buffoon who gets caught lying even before the sentence is done.
     
  2. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    I don't know why any black person would have a problem with that.
     
  3. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Bernie not a liberal??? Lololol. He is actually waay too far left for me. I wanted him to win simply because I think he is genuine.
     
  4. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    I think he means Bernie is not an establishment Neoliberal Democrat.
     
  5. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Who also doesn't give two fucks about the people. Republican light
     
  6. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    If Hillary was the worst politician in history, then Bernie should have beat her. End of story.

    And nope, the DNC didn't cheat him.

    HRC beat him in the primary by 1.5 million votes.

    He lost blacks and hispanics. His candidates that he endorsed lost. Teachout lost in NY. Feingold lost in WI. And universal health care was voted down in CO.

    Brooklyn boy lost New York State, the carpetbagger won, how the fuck does that work.

    Bernie and his agenda were REJECTED.

    Get over it.
     
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  7. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    You act like the GOP wouldn't sensationalize that shit.

    I've had enough of extremists. Especially far-lefty assholes trying to sabotage the Democratic Party.

    America is governed by the center.

    Far-left hippies need to defect to the Green Party where they belong.
     
  8. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    You Bernie-Bots parrot buzzwords just like Republicans.
     
  9. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    Ellison is running for DNC chair, not POTUS




    [​IMG] I'm not a Bernie stan, but in retrospect he was easily the best candidate of the final 4 in the primaries.
     
  10. samson1701

    samson1701 Well-Known Member

    In the end, what sank Bernie was Bernie. He never really had a plan to win in the first place. He thought he'd get in there and pull Hillary and the Democrats further to the left and that was it. He didn't think his message would catch on like it did. So, by the time his camp realized they had a real shot a beating Hilary, it was too late to capitalize on it.

    Bernie surprised everyone including himself. Had he known how well he was going to do, he would've run a better campaign and won.

    It's all coulda', woulda', shoulda', now. But, make no mistake about it, he was the best candidate. He had the right ideas at tge right time. He just underestimated himself out of the Presidency.
     
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    She got far more coverage the media sandbagged him. If you actually saw the turnout at his rallies you'd get it. It was a populous election that's why Trump won. People were sick to death of the establishment and thats what she represented. Bernie was far better.
     
  12. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    What's extreme about universal healthcare and free college? How is that extreme it's a smart fiscal investment in the country. It's far better than what we have right now. How would a centrist better serve the American people?
     
  13. samson1701

    samson1701 Well-Known Member

    In an economy where manual, unskilled labor is no longer enough to prosper, free college and universal healthcare is absolutely a wise investment in this country's future.

    Two things people are going to do; make babies and survive. And if they can't make enough to feed their babies they're going to revolt to survive. That sounds extreme, I know. But, if things keep going the way they're going, revolt could happen. Too many have-nots without the skills to better their situations.

    As automation becomes more wide spread, the next battle will be for a Universal Base Income because there just won't be enough gainful employment to go around.

    We're on the cusp of huge changes in our society. Hopefully, we make the right choices. Our futures depend on it.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately you know we won't make the right choices. We can't even sell the public on something as essential as free healthcare. All I keep hearing is "who's going to pay for it" No one seems to have enough sense to look up where their tax dollars go. Instead they buy into this bullshit of a lot of their money going to welfare and how they don't want to pay for some lazy person not work. They completely ignore that over half our dollars go into the military, a military that if you cut by 5% we'd have more than enough for free education, healthcare, subsidized housing, food stamps, low interest home loans for all etc
    But they live and breathe on the idea that anything given to people of color is down right wrong and would rather everyone suffer than see anyone brown with anything. That is the sickness and insanity of American conservatism, swaths of people who would rather hate and starve than to cooperate and thrive. That's going to be the big challenge of our time because the wealth exists to take care of everyone, it exists for everyone to do well and live with dignity. I agree UBI makes the absolute most sense but it's going to take political will to make it happen and when most of the people representing you are slick talking callous millionaires and an electorate too insanely simple to understand their circumstances how does that happen?
     
  15. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    Too bad rallies aren't votes. Again, Bernie lost with the core Dem constituencies: Blacks, Hispanics and women. Weird how HRC is the worst politician in the world but it's everybody else's fault St. Bernie lost

    The establishment is just what Trump voters and far-lefties ended up getting, how funny.

    What's even funnier is that HRC and the DNC actually incorporated some of Bernie's far-left agenda into the platform. If she'd won, they'd have half a loaf. But they pouted, voted Stein or stayed home. Now they're ass out.

    See a doctor while you can before Trump and the GOP cut your bennies, that's my advice. And save your money.
     
  16. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    Because centrists GET ELECTED.
     
  17. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    So much truth.

    Automation is really going to define the direction of most Western industrialized economies in the coming decades. Industrial efficiency is great, but at the end of the day people need good paying, family supporting jobs.
    Automation cuts out the middle class and blue collar to poor worker completely from the business economy completely, and those are the symptoms that feed violent revolutions.

    When people don't have jobs, they turn to crime and violence.
    Except this time it won't be Blacks leading in this crime statistic.
     
  18. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Lol
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    The vast majority of Bernie supporters voted for Hilary what are you talking about?
    You're one of those types who totally voted based on name brand recognition and not actually policy because if it too Bernie Sanders to get someone like Clinton to acknowledge cheaper college and a higher minimum wage we were gonna get another Goldman Sachs puppet anyway.
    And the reason why she sucks is because she has been campaigning for damn near 20 years and got beat by two political novices both times. Two people who were wet behind the ears politically with nearly no experience campaigning on the level she does and she still lost.
    And as for Bernie Sanders, think about who he was nationally before he campaigned for President. A virtual nobody yet the DNC saw him as so much of a threat they had to cheat. He galvanized the people, Hilary didn't and can't do that which is why she keeps losing.
     
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  20. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Apparently not hello every damn Republican for the last 40 years. What was centrist about Reagan both Bushes or Trump? Take your time I'll wait.
     

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