Man Hits Woman - Was he Right ? Or Wrong ?

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C'mon guys, if we're going to have this debate, let's be genuine. You know what he did wasn't about "defending himself". He was in very little danger of bodily harm. A shove & a love tap from a woman her size don't constitute a vicious attack. The guy was obviously just venting his rage, not "defending himself".

Let's not be a byotch -- you know: all about "winning the argument" rather than acknowledging the truth.

Whether you justify what he did or not, it's obvious to all that he wasn't "defending himself". Defending his foolish pride, maybe, but no -- he wasn't defending himself. Maybe you're confusing "retaliation" with "defending yourself".

Absolutely everyone agrees with that. You might as well be saying "water is wet". But your point is irrelevant. If he had shot her instead, you could say the same thing you're saying now. It would be no less true -- and it would be just as irrelevant to whether or not the reaction was excessive.

...Because what you have to lose by doing anything should be worth what you have to gain. How you handle risk/reward propositions can play a big part in the trajectory of your life. Especially when it comes to violence. If he was genuinely defending himself, it would be worth all the lawyer fees that might've come with it, the risk of serving time, the court of public opinion, the record for assault, what it's doing to his reputation now, etc., etc.

But again, fact is, he was not defending himself. He was in no danger of bodily harm. He clocked her because it felt oh-so-good in the moment. Like cheating on your wife, or snorting heroin. Risk/reward.

I repeat: he was not defending himself, and not trying to "keep himself safe". (lol!!) What he did was the worse possible course of action if he wanted to "keep himself safe" in fact. He was not in bodily harm, being tapped open-handed and lightly shoved by a chick half his size. She was doing him no damage, and he had easy access to escape.

Defending himself? No. Keeping himself safe? No. Defending his pride? (...Like the aforementioned cops when anyone happens "disrespect" them?) Maybe. This case is about excessive force, ironically, same as so many cases where the cops use excessive force and we're all (rightfully) up in arms.

That is correct. He could've done anything from grabbing her hands and handing her to the other dude, to walking away. Not for her sake, but for his own. He had a lot to lose.

Gotta wonder how he would've handled it if he had won billions in the lottery the day before, and what you guys would be saying then. You'd probably be calling him stupid. Well, it's just as stupid for him to risk his career and future, regardless.

Guns come with the threat of grave bodily harm. ...So other guns are obviously an okay response. What you're really saying (without understanding it) is because she "assaulted him" he had the right to do whatever, including shoot her, even if he was evander holyfield. Since she "assaulted" him, any reaction is okay, right?

Fact is, there was no risk of harm to him until he clocked her like that. Now his reputation & earning potential are taking a hit. Stupid on his part.

 

I get what you are saying but you can't scream I'm a woman after slapping a dude. If you don't want to get punched don't instigate.

I don't feel sorry for her.

 

Exactly right, well said.

 

Wait...so because someone has opinion that's different from yours they're not being genuine? Come on man! Seriously, you're smarter than that. Don't play that game.

I'm not going to quote the rest of your post because I said what I said, and I stand by what I said. Feel free to think that I'm not "genuine" because I disagree with most of what you say if that makes you feel like you have the higher moral ground, though.

 

I don't think that this girl was innocent, nor do I like any of the bullshit standards regarding inter-gender violence.

Jay Z restrains himself from a violent attack from a female, and he gets ridiculed by society and turned into a bunch of memes. Not only that; people actually came out and claimed that Solange must have had a good reason for hitting him. We all know that if he'd so much as even attempted to restrain Solange when she was acting like an animal, there would be people calling Jay Z a disgusting woman beater to this day.

A man responding to violence from a woman is not the same thing as a man launching an unprovoked attack on a woman.

That being said, Mixon should have been smart enough to walk away. A brother can get jammed up for doing absolutely nothing. You can't respond to a situation with a woman like this, especially when you have so much going for you.

 

Hypocrite...I bet you feel sorry for that sister that was KTFO by Ray Rice.

 

U need to find that online party for McNair's death. Oh wait....you lied

 

Damn......you probably would beat the last horse that Julius Caesar rode if you could.

It couldn't possibly get any deader.

 

I agree. Women want to throw blows but then whine when they get clocked back. Don't ask for rain then cry about the muddy ground. She got what she deserved.

 

I'm not finished beating that mofo . What you talking about

 

Got dam

 

The letter of the law would general support what he did, since any reasonable person in an emotional highly intense situation like that would have reacted that way. The law of self-dense doesn't asterick gender - you can defend yourself against an attack reasonable WITHOUT regard for the attackers gender.

When he tried to get way, that's when she assaulted him.

 

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Exactly. On video, He tried to walk away and she grabbed him and hits him but he's the asshole

As others said though or inferred, the law is not for bm.

Hell you have a video of a bm running from a cop , gets shot in the back, you see the cop plant evidence and they can't convict.

Really?

 

He did not try to walk away, what video did you watch?

 

Not so fast there, this is why non-lawyers should not speculate on legal matters, the law is RARELY cut and dry. Here is a common definition of "self defense", one that the state of Oklahoma probably uses.

self-defense

"n. the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor, if the defender has reason to believe he/she/they is/are in danger. Self-defense is a common defense by a person accused of assault, battery or homicide. The force used in self-defense may be sufficient for protection from apparent harm (not just an empty verbal threat) or to halt any danger from attack, but cannot be an excuse to continue the attack or use excessive force. Examples: an unarmed man punches Allen Alibi, who hits the attacker with a baseball bat. That is legitimate self-defense, but Alibi cannot chase after the attacker and shoot him or beat him senseless. If the attacker has a gun or a butcher knife and is verbally threatening, Alibi is probably warranted in shooting him. Basically, appropriate self-defense is judged on all the circumstances. Reasonable force can also be used to protect property from theft or destruction. Self-defense cannot include killing or great bodily harm to defend property, unless personal danger is also involved, as is the case in most burglaries, muggings or vandalism."

Now the prosecution in this case will argue that the force the football player used was indeed excessive and unreasonable due to the great disparity in weight, height and strength. In other words the law allows plenty of room for BROAD interpretation as to what is reasonable and/or excessive. Bottom line the only way to protect yourself is to not put yourself in the situation to where you are at the mercy of such interpretations, walk away from any physical confrontation with a woman...period!

 

Look at the point where she grabbed him. He's pivoting to move then she grabbed him.
It was about the 26 sec mark . He stepped away and she says something and she pushed or grabbed . Looking at it again it looked like she pushed him

 

You are wrong here GL, he turns to leave and then turns back of his own volition in response to something she said, not because she grabbed him. Then she pushes him

 

And as people say don't start nothing won't be nothing. I don't feel sorry for the chick. He shouldn't have followed her but never put your hands on anybody. Ever.

Also, I have a hard time with that statement. He didn't continue the attack. It was one punch. She continued the attack . The push/grab and shove. But as stated common sense and law dont go together