Sausage farm

This!!!

 

This is so silly to me GL. This may be a conversation that a ww, coming into a new relationship with a bm who has children, may need but rest assured, any of the ww here with biracial kids already knows what we're up against. I also think it's weird that you seem to take issue with the term "biracial", as if we don't already realize how our children are actually viewed with regard to race. It's like you're starting threads that discuss the obvious, then you get frustrated when we don't respond. I've been a mother for over 10 years, I'm 100% clear on the obstacles we face as a mixed-race family.

:freehug: I have no patience or respect for ww who date bm but have no understanding of, our willingness to learn, what bm face on a daily basis in this country. I think those ww give us such a bad name and it's so incredibly sad to me that that is the type you come across more often than not.

 

I don't take issue with biracial. Damn. The world don't give a damn if your child is biracial...they see black. Hell we talk racism on BM (grown BM) all day. So now you are upset at looking at a different angle. Oh don't talk about black kids and the high rate of suspension. That's not important. Oh wait let's not talk about cause you know. With that logic we need not to talk about racism at all now and afterwards cause we know.


Trust me , I understand what you are saying but my point is ww bring things to the table too. As far as a ww not knowing but dating bm I get your point but they need educated too. You aren't born knowing. You are taught . hell, in another thread (I wish o know which one) a celeb said something to the extent "I didn't realize the racism blacks faced until I dated one". So should he dump her? . No.

So with that every Person has room to learn...everyone...me and you. Hell I learn and you learn. Hell some people didn't know about how LBJ ousted BM out the home until I told them. I thought they knew. It's common knowledge but it wasn't. Now they understand the dynamics at the fundamental level of the absent BM of the family (matriarchy)

I just found out about how black vets had to sit all the way in the back of the train while captured German soldiers got better seating. So you need patience to teach. Hell you may have a ww dating a BM for the first time in her life at 50 so are you going to scorn her. That ridiculous. Then on top of that she may have a good story to tell. We all need to listen and learn

A relationship is a two way street.

 

I guess it boils down to the fact that we're all here for different reasons. I don't care to make friends here (it ended up being an awesome bonus) but I don't "bond" with women just because they date IR...this was discussed in another thread. I won't scorn a woman dating IR for the first time at 50, but I also won't be her friend just because she's got a black bf. I come here to show my love and respect for men who are too often viewed as somehow less than in this country. Many ww date bm for reasons that I'll never respect (as was addressed earlier) so I guess I'm not as quick to show them the same love I show the men here. It is what it is. My point though about the term biracial is that you keep trying to correct me when I use it, as if I don't know how my babies are viewed. I'd appreciate a little more credit than that GL. I honestly appreciate your point and what you're trying to discuss here with our kids, but there'll be times when people are just too busy to go there. It's not that it doesn't matter or that we don't care trust me. Ww with non-white kids deal with racism daily, so believe me when I say it's not a topic that goes unheard, regardless of the traffic in the threads here.

 

Goodlove: What does any of the things you have posted thus far have to do with, from your POV, this site being a "Sausage Farm" or any thing encompassing IR related issues as a whole never mind correcting what you see as the problem?


And please do not reply with the same condescending "Now You mad/upset" response that you have given to both K & Raider for asking you what you are trying to get at and where are you trying to go with this thread.

 

exactly

But this is another example where he thinks it's certain things and when the women who are here straight up tell him it's not what he's thinking/saying, he's going to argue with us.

GL - If you want to know what women want - ASK us and then (gasp) actually LISTEN. Show some respect to those of us who are here.
You've been very dismissive of each and every thing that Raider and I have said. It really makes me question what your motive is with this.

 

A lot a women have left. I talked to one who are friends to many saying what I'm saying.

Also please I expressed exactly this over and over. The ww wanted to speak but felt if they did they would be dismissed.

 

I did. I showed you threads. Also when the ww have expressed themselves many felt dismissed.

 

Show me that so we can discuss in context

 

Then good riddance. Some women need to be catered to and handled with kid gloves. If they stormed off because they felt "dismissed" then that's on them. Put on your big girl panties and make your voice heard. No sympathy for victim mentalities.

 

You talked with one ww and I would question as to how many friends she has had on this forum. You really should open your eyes. One woman said she wants to discuss "women's issues" cool, she can post those threads and they will be addressed or not based on what the interest level is. I'm starting to think that not only is Flaming right about her, maybe he's also right about you.

You mean we ww might feel dismissed just like you are doing to both myself and Raider on this very thread? You didn't ask, but Raider and I have stated several things. You didn't listen, you argued. You aren't getting it.

I know you think you are doing something to help, but you certainly are NOT speaking for the ww who are on here now or who have been on here previously. And stop thinking that Bliss represents all of us too. We are all very capable of speaking for ourselves. The issue becomes when we aren't being heard.....just as YOU are NOT hearing us NOW. Typically we will get into it a little bit and realize it's not going to go anywhere (just like now) and then we bail on it. It's pretty simple.

If what you are doing isn't working, maybe you should try something different. hmm what a novel idea! Look to yourself and see how it is that you may be contributing to the issue you are concerned about. If in fact, you actually want to be productive.

 

LOL

I just think this is too funny. He's all worried about ww feeling dismissed and he just keeps dismissing what we are saying. WTF

 

I said I talk to one that also talked to others and it wasn't bliss.

But you also would have to apply that to yourself in that you can represent all ww. I can represent all BM....paniro and I think differently on issues and agree on others.

I told bliss and others I'm saying now. "Let your voice be heard and not back down. It's your fault for letting them run over you"

I am hearing you are saying you disagree with talking women issues. I later on clarified and said ww pov on IR such as raising a black/biracial child

 

His cape is of no use to women who are capable of speaking for themselves and clearly that makes for a bitter captain save a ho lol.

 

Who is "WE"?


Seems like the entire issue is YOU want to push discussions on topics that other people, especially women, have no interest in discussing.

 

You and me. We. Show me so we can discuss the supposed "you mad upset"statement in context cause I don't remember saying that

 

I'm not interested in discussing this with you because there isn't anything to discuss.


Here however are the separate posts from both K and Raider and your "You Mad/Upset" replies to them since you don't remember:

And your response to K was :

Your rely to Raider:

 

Regarding K She used the term 'sidewys" there's nothing sideways about what I'm saying. When you use the term sideways that means I'm coming at you with malice intent. That is saying she is upsrt

Raider stated I'm taking issue with the term biracial and I'm not. If you really go read I also said thing like "I understand what you are say..... " There was not intent to start an argument.

 

And I repeat the question of my very first post :

And this thread helps to increase the presence of women on the forum how?

 

Holy fuck - you just like to argue! And you can't even remember what you said within 24 hours.

You make up your own definitions to things and act on them. If you want clarification on something someone says ASK them. BTW - I explained what I meant too!

Stop speaking for me (and anyone else for that matter) Everyone here is an adult and fully capable of speaking for themselves.


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