Random Political comments...

Yep corruption is everywhere but You don't have to be ok with it. Smh sad state America is in

 

Haha..could you imagine living life as a ROBOT?? Parties telling you how to think ..AND LIVE. Tell you who should be your friend or not, like they killed someone.
That's why l like you Panni ( and Bookie)...because you're (both) open-minded on issues like me. You're a human first and see them and others through that prism.
You don't kiss ass, or pander, or seek brownie points based on some imaginary code. You don't seek the death of others based on some imaginary gender dominant system. We can see the other side and do acknowledge it, but some people are so damn STIFF, they refuse to.
Cheers mate. :freehug: ( Cause you said you drink beer!

 

What's funny is I would have a beer and laugh and bullshit with ra, an, tdk, Loki, and many others on the forum. The politics and social issues ideals are just one aspect of a person.

Kind of like how I don't agree with a lot of Obamas policies but he seems like a cool mofo that I would love to get a beer with and bullshit. I know some hardline conservatives that hate him as if they know him personally and shit. Smh

 

Every meme Paniro posts, and you for that matter Bliss, is social media right wing pandering.smh

Very little is fact based and most of it is a distortion or some form of right wing propaganda.

 

How is this a distortion?



So who's the liar - me, or your girl?

 

So if your name can possibly spell liar you're a liar? Shit like this is why the party is always mocked for lack of intelligence lol
I often wonder if you took over Petty's job as site shit stirrer lol

 

Same tired Hillary paranoia BS from the Right that shits on the facts.
As a conservative, which one do you most have a problem with....a retired Secretary of State receiving on average $225,000 for paid speeches, or that she gave a handful of speeches to big investment banks??

It's the abject HYPOCRISY of Republicans that turns my stomach.

All prominent, well known politicians have made millions after leaving office on the speech circuit.

But what really pisses me off is a political party who's been bought and sold by Wall Street for decades has the nerve to act like ANY association nowadays with a major investment bank is a crime against humanity.

Real question Bookworm. Do you think the big investment banks should be broken up??
Yes or no.

Again, per CNN Hillary Clinton gave 92 speeches between 2013 and 2015 at a standard fee of $225K, and ONLY EIGHT of those 92 speeches were to big Wall Street banks, for which she earned $1.8 mil.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/20/news/economy/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs/

It's interesting to me conservatives only began to realize our economic system is corrupt when they can paint a liberal as the villain.

All the federal banking rules and regulations that have been written by D.C. lobbyists to tilt the scales have been brokered and written into law at the direction of republican lawmakers since the 1980s.

The GOP disproportionally has been the party of Wall Street for decades, and I never heard shit from any conservative they had a problem with this arrangement.


I'll keep asking the same question to conservatives who vote republican; what the hell has the GOP ever done for you???

Democrats an give you a laundry list of policy accomplishments Democratic politicians have achieved for their constituents.

But the GOP's base voter has always been the rich and powerful.
The working class republicans have always been the useful idiots for the GOP.

 

That's called a coincidence, not some deep factual insight.


You remind of the folks who used to say Ronald Wilson Reagan was really the antichrist because the letters in his first, middle and last name each added up to 6.


It's easier to hate caricatures than to actually work on hard policy and legislative solutions that require bipartisan support.
Oh I forgot, the GOP has no solutions.


Your party just nominated the most erratic and nonfactual presidential candidate in history, and you have the nerve to call Hillary a liar???

LOL. Now that's funny.

 

I hear you. My bff is married to an Obama hater. His hate is for his policies AND personal. I draw the line at personal, so we argue a lot. Her and l tag team him and thus he never wins with us.
I don't think RA would ever have a beer with you, tbh, or FH.
I think l could have a beer with AB, maybe TDK but we'd end up getting loud, l could see that with TDK..though who knows.
There are two who l would not want a drink with at all ever, lol.

FH l could though..l think he talks a lot of shit at times and doesn't like WP but that's because l feel he doesn't get to know them, or want to. I have a soft spot for him, but l probably shouldn't since he's called me some choice names, lol. But he's a conspiratorial theorist and anti-govt, so how can l not like him

 

Same here. Living in the south where there are lots of conservatives, many of my friends and coworkers hold at least some conservative viewpoints. We generally get along as long as they aren't the racist, whackjob kind of conservatives (birthers, revisionist historians, etc). Last year one my friends changed his profile pic to a confederate flag and it took me about five seconds to defriend him.

I agree with part of that. I think that Trump most definitely does not want to be president but it has nothing to do with Clinton. I honestly believe that he ran as a publicity stunt but didn't realize just how off-the-rails crazy conservatism has become over the past few decades.

For one thing, even if Trump did run as Republican as a favor to Clinton, there was no way that either one of them would know that he would do so well in the primaries. Plus, when has Trump ever done anything for anyone that wasn't named Donald J. Trump? He's as self-centered and egotistical as you can get. He's basically what would happen if The Onion ran a presidential campaign.

He's loud, angry, bigoted, sexist, hypocritical, and grossly ignorant of even the most basic foreign policy knowledge. He "jokes" about Russia hacking into our emails. He "jokes" about his opponent being shot. The guy is exactly what the conservative movement stands for these days. Republican nominee Donald Trump is the end result of Republicans doubling down on conspiracy theories and innuendo and looking at knowledge and intelligence as character flaws.

It's been said before but I think that it bears repeating: Trump isn't the disease, he's the symptom. The GOP better figure out how to get their party back on track or else they'll find themselves in the same predicament four years from now.

 

FH is flaming hetero????

 

^ ^ ^ Yes, Archie.

They're not my party.
No such thing as coincidences. It's still a fact.

I agree with your summation of Trump as erratic. He's a caricature indeed. See how l can agree, but Hillary is your mother Teresa? :smt083
C'mon babe...say one thing bad about her. Just one.

 

I'll bite. For one thing, she's much cozier with Wall Street banker types than I would like my preferred candidate to be. That's part of why I voted for Sanders even though I knew she would win Georgia. Her foreign policy is also a bit too hawkish for my tastes as I think that we need to spend less time in the Middle East but by this point, that ship has sailed.

 

Let me know when you have a meeting with FH.

I'll push 91 on my phone and wait.

That dude is not racist. He had no problems calling me racist names on this forum and I am black. You need to see his history since he has been here. You or the white person just happen to be his target at the time.

I'd honestly be concerned about your safety. TDK just cares passionately(so do you) about his opinion but that dude is something else. I'll leave it at that.

 

Agree

 

He won't! He can't!


To do so would mean........

 

We've already discussed this.
But you were probably too busy looking for silly gifs to post.


Hillary isn't a true progressive and is a more a moderate conservative than a true liberal, much like her husband.

Sanders forced her to become more progressive but it remains to be seen if she'll govern that way.


But the criticisms of Hillary are minor compared to her opponent in the general election, which is obvious when you see how the RNC is pulling funding from his campaign and willing to spend more cash on down ballot candidates running in the Senate and House.

No progressive is seeking ideological purity from a candidate.
That's your side that makes legislators sign pledges to NEVER raise taxes under any circumstances, etc.


Tell Bliss to mail you a pair of pom poms, Paniro.
You make one helluva great cheerleader for all her posts.:smt011

 

You can mail me mine too, then. Because I've never heard you complain when I've cheered your posts - heck, l even gave you a shout-out about your posts in the voice thread.

Let's not forget all the reps, too.

You're a funny man, AB.

 

Same here! I don't give out enough rep so it takes forever to get me able to rep the people I really want to rep - which is you!

 

The problem with condoning any type of corruption is that corruption is like heroin. Once you take a little, you're hooked and it gets worse and worse and worse until you're the President endorsing two candidates that did everything in their power to disenfranchise voters, another candidate, and basically shit all over the democratic process.

And yes, I just said that Obama has become corrupt as hell. There is no other explanation for his silence during the election suppression/fraud allegations. There is no other explanation for him fully endorsing Hillary. There is no other explanation for him fully endorsing DWS.

I cannot believe how incredibly corrupt this administration has become. It's sickened me.

And that's the problem with corruption - it never just ends at a little, because when you get a taste of it, the hunger becomes so deep that nothing can satisfy your cravings for more.

So, no, condoning any type of corruption is bad news.

You know why I loved Bernie Sanders so much? Because he actually proved that you can work in government and basically keep your hands clean.

I want someone with integrity running this country. Unfortunately, though, integrity is looked at as a weakness. :smt011