Colorism

I've admitted colorism is a factor in the entertainment business and socially when it comes to dating and choosing a mate.
I just don't feel like that's coming from White people.

In real life terms concerning decisions that directly affect a person's LIFE, education, employment, where they live, saying that a light skinned Black person has an inherent advantage over a darker skinned one IMO is just wrong.

ATTRACTIVE people do have advantages in our society, but Whites, unlike other ethnic and racial groups, don't define 'beauty' solely by skin tone.

For instance, Kenyan born actor Lupita Nyongo IMO is not going to be high on most Black men's top five list of the most beautiful Black female actors.

And if she is on their list, for the same Black men Lupita would be too dark to date personally.

Yet if most White men were asked to make the same list of Black female actors, I'd bet that she's definitely on it and close to the top.

Lupita is considered one of Hollywood's 'beautiful' people and is nearly is well known for her fashion magazine covers and modeling shoots as she is as an actor.

White society places an aesthetic value on Black Americans beyond pure skin tone.
You will NEVER hear a White person say,"Wow!! That Black woman is so pretty for a dark girl."

It begins and ends with her attractiveness, or lack thereof, and her precise shade of blackness, for them, is secondary.

Black folk say women are 'pretty' for a dark skinned girl all the time, as if her beauty needs a caveat, because the unspoken assumption among Black folk is that Black really isn't that beautiful.:smt085


We're never going to agree on this and you've shifted the argument to the role skin color plays in the lives of Black women, instead of the original discussion of light skinned Black folk having societal advantages over dark skinned Blacks.

I still say that being dark is more a problem within the Black community than it is living in a White dominated society.

I don't have the study to prove it, but if you take a look at the kind of Black women White guys choose to marry, IMO they tend to be brown skinned or darker. Not light skinned.

If you do a google search for "white men black women couples", it really jumps out at you.

 

Lol
Shheeeed.. Lupita sheed
She's high on my list . that's a sexy mofo

Lol

I dated "high yella mofo" to black " like the tires on my tire black"

Ain't no shame in my game. Fuck that. She's fine she's fine.

She reminds my of Cicely tyson

 

That vid is totally on point. I didn't catch too much of this growing up as I was kinda in the middle, but I've heard soooo many negative comments about dark-complected people.

I know of one little girl who was physically abused while her two light-skinned siblings were treated well. The little girl was the baby of the bunch and clearly her mother took issue with her complexion. Child Welfare services eventually removed the child from the home.

My ex-wife who is a shade lighter than I am used to talk about being made fun of in her family as well. She and her dad was the darkest, and 2 siblings, mother and most other relatives were light skinned.

One of my high school buddies is married to a young lady who is light-skinned. She has a younger sister who has the same exact face/features and body, but she's dark-skinned. It always amazed me how much they looked alike, but some people in their circle could see very little resemblance. It had to be about their different complexions.

I do think being dark skinned is more "accepted" nowadays as is BW with natural hair.

Just my opinion.

 

Agreed, but, apart from the pre-colonialism bias against the peasant class (as typified by darker skin from agricultural work), that internalized self-hate flows from the system of opression created and fostered by white supremacy.

 

Rambling again - don't pay me any mind

Sorry, I was away for a couple of days

Real quick...how "attractive" would the black Hollywood actresses be if they didn't have weave? Ehhh outside of the mixed ones like Soldana, Berry, etc. Key - Without Weave...

BTW, we have about 50/50 light/dark skin brothas reppin' Hollywood, but what's the ratio of dark/light skin women given the opportunity to be stars?

Ok...now onto "real shit" and outside of fantasy land (Hollywood).

There are more darkskin people in the U.S. than lightskinned people? There are mixed people who are so light that you wouldn't even know that they have any black in them. In addition to that, we have the classification system that now has people marking themselves as black hispanics or latinos or "other." Years ago, that wasn't an option (they were just "black"). 17% hispanic/latino makeup and 2.5% mixed...roughly double the black population, but how many actually have black skin, blood or appearance?

To be honest, cops shoot minorities across the spectrum. However, they might not notice (at a glance - driving by) that a lightskinned dude is black. I see them roll up on just as many white guys that come to the hood...basically because they assume they are buying drugs. Fortunately, they just run them out - they don't shoot them.

I guess we are in the right place to ask white women if it makes a difference whether they present a darkskin guy or lightskin guy to their parents. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if we will get past the "subconscious" I'm not prejudice so it doesn't matter screening - haha. Can I call a white woman prejudice that passes on me to date a lightskin brother with green eyes and straight hair? But honestly, how can I? If a darkskin dude only dates lightskinned or white women - why doesn't it make him prejudice? We're told, "It's a preference"...so maybe cops aren't prejudice after all?....perhaps they just have a preference for those they like to shoot?

Reminds me of the clip someone posted with the Dominicana saying her country has this thing about, "Marrying up - mejorando la raza (choose someone light so that offspring will be light and not dark). Is it a preference or is it prejudice? If you have a storefront do you hire someone who's chocolately black to deal with your client base is lilly white?...in a lilly white neighborhood where perception might weigh quite a bit more?

Truth be told, blacks will hire blacks. Have you ever walked in a black business and seen an all white staff or not seen a black employee? So, we can discard blacks as hiring authorities? However, if the black makeup of this country is roughly 10+%, a smaller fraction of that are business owners and we have the highest percentage in jail....it's pretty safe to say that the majority of the employers we're talking about not hiring blacks due to their names are white/other than black.

Basically saying that most times a person won't be chosen for an interview if their name is reflective of them being black. They've done the studies to show it. The negative stereotype of black people has been ingrained in the brains of other minorities who have even yet to meet a black person.

...we've entered the realm of contract employees and "at will" employment. I worked in the computer field and went to 4 different computer schools. All of them were run by Indians (from India). Now...if Indians are prejudice against their own people for being darkskin - what do you think the chances are that they're going to embrace black people? I've never walked in an Asian business (outside of an urban clothing place or working security at a corner store) with black employees. I've seen whole hispanic construction crews with not one black employee...and they're on a Federal Contract.

I think the fact that Trump is as popular as he is should be a wake up call to any black american. His popularity is directly reflective of the skeletons of prejudice which are hidden away in the closets of a large percentage of americans. I hope I'm wrong, but folks who are going to vote for this man because he's all about making this country stronger and or bring employment levels up (which will help minorities) need to put some serious thought into casting their vote. If you don't have a clue you should get a clue. You may end up finding yourself out of a job or health benefits when he ends up stripping away/dismantling the regulations that allow a little bit of "equality"...