Colorism

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by K, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. K

    K Well-Known Member

  2. MilkandCoffee

    MilkandCoffee Well-Known Member

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    I found the same video on their youtube so I just used that
     
  3. K

    K Well-Known Member

    Thank you!
     
  4. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Good thread . I didn't watch the whole video but I have seen Asians wanting to lighten their skin. I also saw "good hair" it really talked about how Black's try to assimilate thru relaxing their hair among other things.

    Its really sad people aren't satisfied with themselves because they see themselves as not good enuff or ugly
     
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  5. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    True Gl8.
     
  6. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Just reinforces that colorism is generally a problem within a specific culture and not something inflicted on someone from another racial or ethnic group.

    No Black American is going to think a Brown skinned Indian girl is too dark for a job, or a tanned Korean woman is too dark to be their physician.

    Being light skinned within a specific culture is not the same as white privilege.


    The institutional gatekeepers of White privilege don't categorize minorities based on shades of skin tone.

    WE do that, not them.
     
  7. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Like someone said "inner racism"
     
  8. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Did you watch the video? You keep saying this unsupported ridiculous bullshit. The instutitional gatekeepers as you call them created this system to begin with. Special favors and consideration were always made for lighter skin people this shit didn't happen in a vacuum. One more time there's levels to this shit.
     
  9. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Specifically, outside of the Black community, what advantage is afforded to light skin Black people.....in AMERICA???

    That's the issue, because there is none.

    Yes I watched the video. Every one of their recollections was some personal slight or affront, but none of them expressed being victims of institutional racism because they were 'dark'.

    Dark skinned Black people aren't being shorted on their life opportunities because of some 'light skin privilege' given to fair skinned Black folk.

    That's the myth and the lie.
    You really think light skinned Black folk are given special consideration when they apply to college??

    When they go in for job interviews???
    Apply to med school??

    Try to get small business loans??
    Buy real estate???
     
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  10. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    LOL. Dude still thinks horses are our main form of transportation in the south. You got a long up hill battle ahead of you.
     
  11. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    LOL.

    He just won't break that light skinned Black folk float through life on a level dark skinned brothas can never dream of.
     
  12. darkwawyer

    darkwawyer Member


    You are kidding, right? I hope so....

    By the way, Tanha and Selorm are freakin' gorgeous:smt049
     
  13. darkwawyer

    darkwawyer Member

    There is no doubt that when a light skinned dude walks down a side walk and a white person is coming in the opposite direction...the white person doesn't cross the street. They will cross the street if it's a dark skinned dude and don't let him have a hoody and jeans on.

    As far as interviews, yeah, you can be sitting there and get discriminated for having darkskin. You definitely can get passed over for positions where you have to show your face, unless you are getting put there for a reason (to deal with black clients or to go to the hood...or to deal with "hood" attitudes).

    Additionally, we already have seen studies that show discrimination based on the name given by parents. I don't know any mulatta (white or asian) Shaniquas, LaQuintas or Porschas...but studies have shown that having a black name will get your paperwork stored in the "circular file" (trashcan).

    ...and if you're still thinking about it, *Let me ask you this -

    "Out of all the troubles (shootings/killings) that black men have had with the police, how many of those black men have been LIGHTSKINNED (not brown skin - light skin)???"

    Keep thinking that it doesn't matter...If you can get choked out, stunned/beat with a baton or end up catching 4-10 bullets while unarmed...you can certainly be passed over for interviews, scholarship money and jobs - IJS...That should clear up any doubt for you.
     
  14. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Most Black people in this country are brown skinned or darker, so it would make sense those of us being shot are predominantly 'darker' skinned.

    And yeah light skin brothas catch bullets from cops too.
    You just don't remember.

    In 2014, Darrien Hunt was gunned down in Utah.
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    In 2015, Tony Robinson was shot to death in Madison, Wisconsin.
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    Army vet Anthony Hill was gunned down in Atlanta by cops in 2015.
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    (There's more than these three too who were killed by cops.)


    Additionally, I have yet to see a company run by WHITE people who prefer to have a light skinned Black person fill a job over a darker skinned one, assuming roughly all things are equal,(general attractiveness and appearance, education, experience, etc,)


    This assumption that there exists intra-discrimination among Black folk, from White people, based on skin tone, IMO is just silly.

    In fact White people are more likely to acknowledge the attractiveness of a dark skinned Black person, whereas some Black folk will dismiss that same person because their skin is too dark.

    Ghetto names?? In the DMV light AND dark skinned Black folk are equal opportunity offenders.

    And finally, the assumption that White people are less likely to cross the street if they see a light skinned brotha approaching, let's just say you're fortunate not to have met in life any thugged out light skinned brothas.:roll:


    Maybe it's just me but outside of the club scene and occasionally dating, I've never been in a situation where I felt another Black man had an advantage over me because his skin was lighter than mine.

    And I've never been in a professional situation where my Black colleagues and I felt a light skinned person was only being advanced in his or her career because she was light.

    The fact is as a Black man if you find yourself being discriminated against because you're too dark, it's usally going to be other Black folk holding you down over it.
     
  15. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

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  16. K

    K Well-Known Member

    The only time I've heard white people preferring light skin Black people other than specific individuals being more attracted to lighter skin (like some of us are more attracted to darker skin) was in the adoption world. Some potential adoptive parents would ask to see pictures of the birth dad (of IR birth parents) to see "how dark" he was thinking they could figure out how dark the baby might be and if they could deal with it (their version of passing).

    Other than that, it's not been how dark or how light...it's been Black or not. Whatever ethnicity or not. Most ethnic groups have some form of colorism within their community.

    What I experienced growing up as an Italian who quickly tanned was my mom's aunties scrubbing my knees till they bled trying to get the "Dirt off"...it was my skin color. It wasn't a good thing to be Italian at that time. They didn't like that I was and they didn't want anyone thinking I was.

    As far as those who lock their doors, grab their purse, or cross the street, I think you are full of it if you think they only do that for darker skinned people.
     
  17. K

    K Well-Known Member

    Here's another 22 year old biracial unarmed man who was killed by a cop. Kris Jackson

    (the cop perceived a deadly threat from an unarmed man who was climbing out a motel window)

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  18. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Generationally yes they have been afforded a shit ton of opportunities over darker skinned people absolutely. For a large part of our history any black wealth was concentrated amongst light skinned people. They were the ones going to college the ones getting better jobs. Was anything codified no not at all but again lets just dismiss the first hand accounts of people living it, lets make your narrative the only narrative.
    I'll make this incredibly simple for you please try to keep up. In the racial politics game the closer to white the better. So amongst black people the closer to white you are ie light skinned the better you will be treated. You will not enjoy white privilege but you will enjoy better treatment than your darker skinned counter part. That's the definition of privilege better treatment not based on merit.
     
  19. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Again how are you gonna tell someone else their experience, so basically if you don't see it it doesn't exist?
    And you deliberately missed what dude was saying, it's not that light skin men never have negative interactions with cops, they're still you urban guys who dress a certain way and I agree that there are more dark skin men being shown because there are more darker skinned men period. But when I look at the kind of black men white people usually fear its darker skin men.
    I remember taking a fiction class in college and one thing a student pointed out was even in our fiction we consume dark skin in general is to be feared. The Orcs in Lord of the Rings, Darth Vader, wraths, demons etc all of these things to be feared are dark. I know it might seem silly to you but I think it translates into real world interactions subconsciously. Good guys where white bad guys where black.
    And as far as jobs are concerned ask a black woman if being light skin doesn't make a difference in the professional world and I literally don't care what profession it is unless its maybe sports.
     
  20. MilkandCoffee

    MilkandCoffee Well-Known Member

    Here's my take:

    I've heard people say they only think Blacks are attractive if they're light and that they find lighter black people less intimidating. But those experiences only happen every so often and I've mostly gotten them from races that are known for being colorist anyways (hispanics and asians) with a few white people here and there. If a white person has something against black people, they're not going to waste time distinguishing between complexion.

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    In the workplace, I haven't experienced any biased from white people in favor of LS black people. I've worked with guys who had the same complexion as Steph Curry and I've never felt like our white managers or supervisors treated them any better than me despite my complexion being more significantly brown.

    In general, i don't think white people care if you're a light or dark skin black person. I believe they have more biased if you're ambiguous and that's only because they don't know you're black yet. White people look at people like Ice Cube and The Game the same way they look at Don Cheadle and Idris Elba.
     

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