Chicago: Experiencing Shootings every week, Going Unnoticed

Discussion in 'In the News' started by tropolis, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. jaisee

    jaisee Well-Known Member

    Well said sir.

    I'd like to think they already know this and are just trolling us at this point.

    But, that's just giving them the benefit of the doubt.
     
  2. FRESH

    FRESH New Member

    I lived on the west side of Chicago for many years, which was always underrated for in many categories of crime. The west side has taken a back sets to the south side until more recently. I know call the west suburbs my main home, and have a small place in the city. I feel very adept to what's going on here with friends and family living all over the Chicagoland area. I know where 'not' to be at what times not to be. It's gotten so bad that the codes that where once followed don't exist, doesn't matter who you are, you could can gunned down in broad daylight by an eleven year old if you were in the wrong neighborhood.

    Chicago experienced what a lot places did with Redlining back in the day. Government subsidized housing was the answer to redlining. As time went on, there was a bit of backwards help with housing, but other opportunities and programs weren't there to fully round out 'the help' the gov was offering. No jobs, no money, gentrification on the rise--creating food deserts mixed with strategically located gov housing (Cabrini) proved to be disastrous. I hate compare problems, but the murder rate in Chicago is far worse than what's going on in Ferguson. That cop shot Brown, and there is at least one unaccounted shooting by police every year, not to mention that African Americans are stopped triple the rate of whites (while not being found to be breaking any law two thirds less than whites). But in Chicago, African Americans are killing each other every almost every day of the week here, but let's not forget the people that may not necessarily be dead, but seriously injured, battered or absused.

    There are many more spin-off problems as well. It's really dire here in certain areas. If you visits spot in the burbs, you would never know there were issues like this if you weren't aware. A lot of people look the other way cause they don't live near it, in their gated communities. But the troubled areas aren't beyond saving. We need to follow the rules of decimating a race to actually build it up--assimilate the children, and convert the older population. The run of the mill is true, education and jobs would go a reply long way, but how they are introduced is key. You have to create self sustaing micro economies to stave of the problems of lack of jobs, safe transportation and low education. If you introduced a bunch 'super' community centers that offered day care, after school programs, job assistance, meal programs, supplementary education, entertainment, health clinics, seminars among a host of other things. When the children are busy and learn that there are other ways to 'make it' instead of drill music deals, sports deals, any other similar deals ('deals' are what a lot of the kids talk about, especially with the drill music, "you gotta get a deal, it's the only way out"). Introduce a lot of trade work, which is a bit better than a lot of fast food, retail and such that only pay minimum wage. The more money we have to spend in the community, the more people step up to fill the needs so people can spend money. They need to back of drug use like New Hampshire gas recently, focusing more on prevention and rehabilitation, only going after top dealers and traffickers. There are several other things that I see could have immediate and lasting effects, but I've already wrote a thesis worth of nsterisl most won't read lol. I was kind of venting here, stepping of my soap box, rant over.
     
  3. Blacktiger2005

    Blacktiger2005 Well-Known Member

    Oh well. 45,000 killed in the last five years. What difference does it make to quote a famous political lady.
     
  4. K

    K Well-Known Member

    Over 2000 shooting victims in Chicago this year! Chicago has more homicides than New York City and Los Angeles COMBINED for 2016 with more than 319 murdered. More than 60 were shot over the 4th of July weekend including children! Where's the media attention on this?? Where's the outcry?? Why aren't we doing something about this?? Chicago is experiencing an Orlando every single month and yet no one seems to be noticing!

    With so many kids shot, what kind of city has Chicago become?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-kids-shot-glanton-talk-20160704-column.html

    (I couldn't get the article to copy and paste correctly.)
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2016
  5. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Yeah they would talk about here and there but.......

    A movie has been made about by spike called chiraq and barbershop 3 dealt with it.

    Roland martin talked about a few weeks ago. He talked to a pastor there and the pastor said something to the following:

    "I got the gang leaders together and the gang leaders said that back in the day everyone followed orders . now these kids do what they want to do. They are too wild"
     
  6. K

    K Well-Known Member

    The Orlando murders were horrific. Chicago's killing season? Deadlier.

    Americans were appalled when a man with a military-style rifle entered an Orlando gay nightclub on June 12 and began firing. By the time police killed him, he had murdered 49 people and wounded 53. It was one of the worst mass shootings the country has ever seen — a spectacular attack from a killer who said he was driven by Islamist militancy.

    In the days afterward, Americans asked how such slaughter can happen and what it says about the nation's character. Massacres carried out by lone gunmen, an increasingly common event, have become a signature horror of our time.

    But in Chicago, another type of bloodshed occurred that weekend, without much notice except to those directly affected by it or living on streets where it occurred. By the time the weekend was over, 30 people had been shot — one every 96 minutes — and four of them were dead.

    Six months of shootings in Chicago
    At the midpoint of 2016, violence in Chicago is at levels not seen since the 1990s. Shootings alone have climbed to over 1,900 in just six months. (Chicago Tribune)
    That wasn't an especially violent weekend here. It was more or less the norm for this time of year, when warm temperatures pull people outdoors, increasing the chances of vicious encounters.

    Thus far in 2016, more than 1,950 people have been hit by bullets in Chicago, including most of the 315 homicide victims. "We have an Orlando every month in Chicago, and no one seems to raise an eyebrow," Dean Angelo, president of Chicago's Fraternal Order of Police, said the other day.

    Those are sobering numbers. But they're just numbers. The reality behind them is terror, agony and soul-shredding grief. The deaths erase the lives of some Chicagoans and leave others with pain, fear and regret that will never go away.

    Most of those struck down are young men in poor neighborhoods plagued by gangs, where minor disputes can turn deadly in an instant and bystanders can be hit at random. The dead and wounded are the victims of a volatile mix of social and economic toxins, inflamed by the easy availability of firearms.

    July 4th weekend typically Chicago¿s most violent: analysis
    It's hard to come up with measures that can prevent a determined person who has not committed a previous crime from obtaining guns and targeting a public venue to kill as many people as he can. It's easier to devise policies that stand a reasonable chance of reducing violence by making it harder for criminals to get the deadly weapons they want.

    Omar Mateen, the Orlando killer, passed a federal background check to buy his guns. But felons may evade such requirements by purchasing from private sellers, who unlike licensed dealers aren't required to do background checks. They may work with straw purchasers, who buy firearms legally and then sell them illegally. Requiring background checks for all gun sales and stiffening penalties for straw purchasers could curb this sort of activity, raising the risks and costs for those doing business with criminals.

    Need proof? A 2013 federal gun trafficking case found one man who bought 43 guns from gun shows and stores in Indiana, which has looser gun laws than Illinois, before bringing them to Chicago and selling them to an undercover agent. One defendant, a prosecutor said in court, "would go travel to Indiana, to these gun shows where he would load up literally a duffel bag, go from table to table paying in cash, large amounts of cash … before returning right into the worst neighborhoods of Chicago."

    10 shootings a day: Complex causes of Chicago's spiking violence
    No one expects such changes in gun laws to make a big difference or a rapid one. But they are likely to do some good — with minimal inconvenience to law-abiding gun buyers.

    Illinois lawmakers also could make a difference by tightening this state's notoriously light sentences for several categories of repeat felony gun offenders. A move in Springfield to do that flopped in late 2013 because African-American lawmakers were concerned that increased incarceration would ill-serve their communities.

    As if the rising tide of young lives snuffed by gunfire doesn't ill-serve their communities.

    In this especially violent year, the Fourth of July weekend opens with the dread of even more bloodshed. In both 2014 and 2015, it was the deadliest weekend of the year. Last year, 70 people were shot in Chicago over the three-day Fourth weekend, including nine who died. And shootings have been up every month this year compared with the same month in 2015.

    The nation won't forget the shock of what happened in Orlando last month. But the carnage that goes on all the time here is tragically susceptible to being ignored.

    We have an Orlando every month in Chicago, and no one seems to raise an eyebrow.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ly-fourth-orlando-0703-jm-20160701-story.html
     
  7. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Because no one really cares about THOSE kids killing each other in Chicago.

    The rate of shootings is so off the charts in Chitown, it should be one of the leading stories on the nightly national news every single day.

    The media is more concerned with the spike in heroin use in the suburbs now than gangbangers wiping each other out.
     
  8. K

    K Well-Known Member

    YES!!!

    It's beyond kids killing "each other". Many children have been shot by stray bullets, mistaken targeting, etc. In their homes, walking down the side walk with their mom, playing on the playground.
     
  9. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    more are killed by guns in texas and florida than illinois.
     
  10. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    You're comparing the homicide rates in the CITY of Chicago to the entire states of Florida and Texas.

    That's the difference.

    Check how many shootings there are in Houston and Miami, then look at Chicago.
     
  11. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    He thought Chicago was the state
     
  12. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    I did no such thing.

    Read it again.

    I mentioned 3 states...not one city..read it again.
     
  13. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    Here's a thought.

    When Blackwater was kicked out of Iraq for murdering civilians...the first place they resurfaced was New Orleans and Chicago.

    I wonder what they're up to.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    It's cause they're black and poor. Mystery solved.
     
  15. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    There....fixed
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Doesn't happen to affluent black people fam
     
  17. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    No, but they get the nigger treatment in other ways when possible. That is unless they are on some good house negro type behavior of some kind.
     
  18. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    tons of mexicans are in chi-town killing one another also.
     
  19. orejon4

    orejon4 Well-Known Member

    Very true.
     
  20. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    Honestly most of us do not live in chi town. If you don't live there, then you often have no say in what goes on. Politics is local. You will have to form connections to change it and I doubt most people will do that.
     

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